Israel-Palestine Conflict Thread

[TuralyonW3]

100 Palestinians were gunned down yesterday just trying to get food from a truck to feed their kids. Israeli forces say there were “rushing” the truck so of course the only solution was to murder them.

[TuralyonW3]

And speaking of "100," avg. 100 Palestinian children have died every day since the war started

700,000 or so kids are displaced and struggling to eat every day

[ovary]

also remember that big nytimes expose about the mass rapes of oct 7? the one that every major media outlet gave three days of breathless airtime? turns out that was all made up bullshit.

https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/...rtz-october-7/

[Toast]

So is this war still going on? Are there any protests about it?

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by Toast

So is this war still going on? Are there any protests about it?

2,400 arrested at college protests across the country

34,000 Palestinians dead, many of them while trying hard but unsuccessfully to evacuate

[Toast]

Has anyone listened to this cornball's new protest song?


‘Blood is on your hands, Biden’: US rapper Macklemore gives support to Palestine and campus protests

Of course, we all know where Macklemore stands on the issue:

[redbreegull]

your post is so racist it's confusing as to whome it's being racist towards

[Toast]

An actual genocide going on that nobody gives a shit about:

Children ‘piled up and shot’: new details emerge of ethnic cleansing in Darfur

Gruesome new testimony details one of the worst atrocities of the year-long Sudanese civil war – the large-scale massacre of civilians as they desperately tried to flee an ethnic rampage in Darfur last summer.

Witnesses describe children, still alive, being “piled up and shot” by the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) as they attempted to escape the regional capital of El Geneina in June last year during a bout of ethnic violence in which thousands of civilians were killed.

[Machinist]

Both are genocides. Don't be a cunt. It's all horrible.

[Ihaguitar]

There is no genocide in Palestine. Hamas would commit genocide if given the chance, however.

[smashingjj]

Except that's exactly what it is.The Hamas attack was the perfect excuse for Netanyahu to go in full genocide freak mode, killing tens of mostly children.

[smashingjj]

Of thousands, even

[redbreegull]

yeah the fact that Hamas would theoretically commit genocide somehow, amazingly, doesn't legitimize the Israeli government committing genocide in reality. crazy, I know

[Plasticine Rap Star]

Netanyahu says he'll invade Rafah by himself if he has to

[Machinist]

Originally Posted by Ihaguitar

There is no genocide in Palestine. Hamas would commit genocide if given the chance, however.

So much dumb.

[Plasticine Rap Star]

As long as we don't call it a genocide it's not actually that bad.

[Ihaguitar]

It just isn't genocide.

[redbreegull]

How is it not genocide

[redbreegull]

indiscriminately bombing civilians in areas you have forced them into? mass graves at hospitals? Netanyahu wants to literally just force out all the Arabs he doesn't successfully kill to finally annex gaza completely

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by Ihaguitar

It just isn't genocide.

Cool i'm convinved now

[Squish Squash]

It's definitely a genocide, Netanyahu is unhinged and Biden just is going to support him regardless apparently, which ironically enough is going to likely help him Trump get elected which is definitely what Netanyahu wants.

[Ihaguitar]

It's definitely not a genocide. You obviously don't know what the word means.

[ovary]

like two pages ago i pasted the UN definition.

"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

[ovary]

also this

Originally Posted by ovary

i heard a US academic expert on international war crime law or whatever on the quillete podcast and he said:

1. there is a strict legal definition of genocide that israel's actions do not meet because the civilian deaths are "collateral damage." to count as genocide, they need to be exclusively targeting civilians, not just killing them in addition to combatants. reporting i've seen suggests many of these strikes are directed exclusively at civilians, but who knows/i'm not there/fog of war/whatever. also, i mean, he was on quillete.

2. part of international genocide law is that if a state determines an action to be "genocide" then they have a legal obligation to intervene. so states rarely use that term.

3. there are other legal terms like "crimes against humanity" (just any killing of civilians) that israel certainly *is* committing, but rhetorically there is incentive on both sides to instead talk about "genocide"... the left can utilize it as a rhetorical bomb, and the right can shift the convo toward whether the actions meet that stricter definition, rather than confronting the more obvious war crimes head on.

but i mean to me it seems like it's close enough to genocide i don't want to pay for it.

also as i've been saying the whole fucking thread: waging this war in this way is BAD FOR ISRAEL and BAD FOR JEWS. any friend of israel/jews should be against this war. instead critics are all "antisemetic," even the jewish ones. whole situation's totally fucked forever. bibi's driving the country off a cliff.

[Machinist]

It's genocide. There isn't an argument around this other than by people with some misguided sense of loyalty to a murderous colonial state in the middle east.

[DiscoJon]

Originally Posted by Toast

I wholeheartedly apologize for my previous comments and hope Palestine takes what’s theirs. Please take into account the fact that I’ve been a member of Netphoria, in good standing, for over one-and-twenty years.

Please take into account the fact that I’ve been a member of Netphoria, in good standing, for over one-and-twenty years.


This is the cringiest shit I've ever seen on here and I respond with "eat sack" for like 90% of my posts.

[DiscoJon]

It's a genocide, you fucking morons.

[Toast]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

Of thousands, even

Israel stinks at genociding.

UN Halves Its Estimate of Women and Children Killed in Gaza

The United Nations Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) revised its child fatality figure from the Gaza war sharply downward, reporting more than 14,500 deaths on May 6 but then 7,797 on May 8. OCHA also revised downward its figure for women fatalities from more than 9,500 deaths to 4,959 deaths. The Jerusalem Post first reported the changes on May 11.

The UN attributed its original, higher figures to the Hamas-controlled Government Media Office (GMO) in Gaza, whose figures OCHA has cited continually for the past two months. The UN gave no source for the lower figures in its May 8 update, but the figures precisely match those in a May 2 report from a different Hamas-controlled organization, the Gaza Ministry of Health.

[smashingjj]

that looks like a reputable source

[smashingjj]

when the longest paragraph on your wikipedia is called "Criticism" you know you're on the right track