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05-17-2022, 12:51 PM | #91 |
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Not entirely sure (I'm not an industry professional), but obviously one factor is that the reunion with James has boosted the standing of Smashing Pumpkins as far as LiveNation goes. They went from large clubs and small pavilions to arenas for the 2018 reunion tour. I was skeptical in the beginning, but it ended up doing fairly decent business (most shows didnt sell out, but they sold enough to have them asked back for another tour).
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05-17-2022, 01:02 PM | #92 |
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They also played small clubs in 2019 tho. At least here in Europe.
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05-17-2022, 02:49 PM | #93 |
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05-17-2022, 02:51 PM | #94 |
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Just surprising how well they did selling tickets in 2018. I forget the timeline but was Darcy still a possibility when they went on sale back then?
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05-17-2022, 03:44 PM | #95 | |
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06-06-2022, 02:47 PM | #97 |
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When I saw it Birmingham, it was one of two spots where he completely lost the crowd (the other being "Black Forest, Black Hills"). Crowd was not hostile for either, but more "umm...ok." You had a few people who realized what the cover was based on the lyrics and were mildly amused, but it was just so bizarre a choice; particularly (as others have mentioned) it was never a well-known cover of theirs or a fan favorite when they did it in 2000.
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06-06-2022, 02:52 PM | #98 |
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Like everything SP related since 2007, it was a complete clusterfuck. D'arcy went to the media three or four weeks before the "big announcement" (which everyone knew was James re-joining the band and a nostalgia tour). Of course, it spread all over and resulted in the band having to issue a press release about how D'arcy would not be joining them, but they had to avoid using the word "tour" because the stupid timer on the website hadn't ended yet. You'd think Billy would have learned his lesson in 2007, and just been upfront about who was and was not in the band, but nope; pretty much a complete rehash of that. Even though D'arcy had already said she wasn't involved, nothing was sadder than those leaked pictures of D'arcy-less Pumpkins (and Jeff) during the photo shoot they did for the tour.
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06-07-2022, 01:41 AM | #100 |
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Sad, but not nearly as sad as WPC sporting a Sad Machines sweater
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06-07-2022, 08:15 AM | #101 |
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Billy's fixation on announcements of announcements... better to keep the timer going for the announcement and issue a quirky press release.
d'arcy fucked up his BIG annoucement. boohoo. at this point, whatever. it's not like James joining the band saved us from a CYR |
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06-07-2022, 12:29 PM | #102 |
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Let’s be honest here, James is just padding his retirement nest egg. I’m sure he’s having a lot of fun playing these old songs again. But I don’t think he gives the slightest shit about them writing new songs together or contributing to a new album. I’m sure he likes to limit his time spent anywhere near Billy when they aren’t on tour.
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06-07-2022, 01:35 PM | #104 |
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2012 was ten years ago. It looks more like a hobby than a permanent creative outlet.
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06-07-2022, 01:51 PM | #105 |
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James easily understand that the golden years are the only years that matter. no one will ever care about shiny, cyr or MCIS part3. sorry billy...
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06-07-2022, 04:15 PM | #106 | |
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The point being, even if James suddenly pushed some new musical agenda that Billy didn't like, Billy isn't going to fire him and go back to playing tiny venues and having any new music ignored more than it already is. The fact is, James seems to be happy playing the oldies and being a secondary player on any new music Billy makes, which is fine. The dude seems to have found a good balance with his place in the Smashing Pumpkins, his music career in general, and his family. Also, say what you will, but the dude was still - far and away- the most cool and engaging musician on stage when I saw them a few weeks ago. Ok, him and Jimmy |
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06-07-2022, 06:50 PM | #107 |
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agree. when james came out i was struck by how /fucking cool/ he looked/dressed/acted
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Best entry in months. That is the main reason why we dont hear guitr inteply why the songs suck, wh bill lost his ability to write an rcord top gier album/ songs They dont jam anymore or work together on songs......fuck this granny band, this sell out- play your hits combo |
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06-09-2022, 05:11 AM | #110 |
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Every time I see this thread title I think something is happening on the 5th November.
Because America. |
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