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07-23-2022, 05:59 PM | #1 |
Virgo
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is rock and roll too nice?
is it too polite?
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07-23-2022, 06:14 PM | #2 |
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Compared to what? Different genres of music? Sometimes. Compared to older rock? Not as much, but still sometimes.
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07-23-2022, 06:19 PM | #3 |
Virgo
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its so boring and not dangerous and not sexy
rock and roll is so fucking dumb |
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07-23-2022, 06:22 PM | #4 |
Virgo
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08-14-2022, 04:34 AM | #5 |
Braindead
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I'm sorry but I don't think the board is ready for this discussion. It's too painful
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08-14-2022, 04:40 AM | #6 |
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It's actually hilarious when you really stop and think about it and fully appreciate that rock and roll has actually become, in what seems very much to be real life, a genre dominated by virtual guitar amplifier simulators, guitars made to look relic'd straight from the factory, affectation and multilayer conscious\unconscious role playing, the list is endless.
It's just so truly bizarre at this point. Whatever this is, it's very very far from whatever it is rock n' roll was about when it first emerged. |
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08-14-2022, 05:51 AM | #7 | |
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70s-80s rock got big and dumb but with plenty of real artists keeping the torch alive (Neil Young, Stooges, Bowie, emergence of extreme metal like black and death) 90s grunge made rock feel a bit dangerous and sexy for the mainstream audience again, then it burned and out mainstream rock has been shit since 1998 or so There is no rock and roll today, just pastiche bands Acts like SWANS are vital but not sure if that’s rock and roll |
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08-14-2022, 12:58 PM | #8 |
Virgo
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08-14-2022, 01:01 PM | #9 |
Virgo
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i wish i were able to distill it into one moment
like for example the white stripes becoming one of the biggest bands in the world i wish I could find a way to perfectly define the death of rock music. |
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08-14-2022, 01:03 PM | #10 |
Minion of Satan
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some seem to like the term "Woodstock 99"
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08-14-2022, 01:53 PM | #11 |
Virgo
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that was a pinnacle
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08-14-2022, 06:40 PM | #12 | |
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70s, 80s punk/post-punk was wild way way way moreso than the 90s, actually that's when it became phony |
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08-14-2022, 08:34 PM | #13 |
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08-15-2022, 09:22 AM | #14 |
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08-15-2022, 10:05 AM | #15 |
Minion of Satan
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yeah I'd put that wrestling GIF in with groups who kept the spirit of true rock and roll alive
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08-15-2022, 09:14 PM | #16 |
Braindead
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when labels could put an electric guitar in any skinny moptops hand and print money they could also afford to take risks on genuinely subversive artists
now your rockstars get home from their job at Best Buy and plug into a daw because their studio apartment has a noise curfew of 9pm |
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08-16-2022, 09:09 AM | #17 |
real estate cowboy
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whatever
I'm a surfer now |
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08-16-2022, 09:47 AM | #18 |
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Yes. The fact that Wet Leg is currently the indie rock darlings says about the state of music. The album is derivative trash with horrible vocals and yet it gets crazy praise
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08-16-2022, 05:18 PM | #19 |
real estate cowboy
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it's no tool, that's for sure
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08-16-2022, 05:50 PM | #20 |
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08-16-2022, 08:19 PM | #21 |
Minion of Satan
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Are we talking about mainstream rock, or rock in general?
Seeing as there are 10,000,000,000 rock bands out there, I don't know how anybody can make statements about rock music as a whole. Like, okay, maybe Imagine Dragons or whoever counts as a popular rock band right now is garbage, but I'm sure you'll find something you like on Bandcamp. |
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08-16-2022, 09:32 PM | #22 |
Braindead
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Is this what the death of a genre looks like?
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08-17-2022, 12:45 AM | #23 |
Minion of Satan
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it's what a genre not currently being the majority focus of the mainstream looks like and people not being able to handle it years down the line
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08-17-2022, 12:46 AM | #24 |
Minion of Satan
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but also, yes naturally the world would concede to Woodstock '99 and humble themselves to the notion they'd never top it
NEXT QUESTION PLEASE |
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08-17-2022, 12:30 PM | #25 | |
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you need actual money coming in the bands scraping by are engaged in non-stop tours, still relying on the old fashion merch booth more than anything |
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08-17-2022, 06:31 PM | #26 |
Minion of Satan
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Wait, are we discussing whether current music business models are lucrative for artists, whether interesting stuff is still happening in rock music, or whether rock music can still be subversive? I have no idea what question we're even debating here.
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08-17-2022, 07:48 PM | #27 | |
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08-17-2022, 11:11 PM | #28 |
Virgo
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he's right more or less
obviously you could make little arguments here or there but they would be overall meaningless |
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08-17-2022, 11:13 PM | #29 |
Virgo
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we could probably break this down even further if any of you idiots want to argue
(i personally won't because i know if/when you're being a contrarian) |
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08-17-2022, 11:15 PM | #30 |
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