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View Poll Results: How many out of 10 do u rate ATUM
0/10 - unlistenable to you. Shut it off quickly and will not return 15 22.73%
1/10 - made it about halfway thru a song before had to turn it off 4 6.06%
2/10 - there are some moments u think are kind of ok but not enough for u to ever return 8 12.12%
3/10 - there’s a song or two u kinda like, u will listen a few times before forgetting this exists 11 16.67%
4/10 - you like a handful of songs but won’t be adding ATUM to your listening life 8 12.12%
5/10 - the album has as many good as bad choices/sounds on it, it’s not bad but not good either 8 12.12%
6/10 - u feel this album is pretty good and a happy addition to the SP discography 7 10.61%
7/10 - u feel this album is very strong, but marred by missteps that keep it from greatness 1 1.52%
8/10 - you love ATUM and can see it finding a special place in your musical life 2 3.03%
9/10 - ATUM is nearly flawless and stands with some of the best albums by SP or any other band 1 1.52%
10/10 - this is one of your favorite albums of all time 1 1.52%
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Old 11-22-2022, 10:08 AM   #91
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Referring to the band in general, returning to making music with a don't give a fuck mentality and making albums that involve taking risks. This album is very risky and by ignoring the people who tried to say it wasn't a good idea, they or Billy specifically have gone back to doing what they're good at. Which is making albums that get people's attention. Clearly they've succeeded this time around. Now go read the Guardian article interview, and watch the James Corden performance interview. Then listen to Act I and tell me again that he's trying to mislead people. Don't you think if he wanted to sell the record and get people to buy it, he'd have made something way different? The very fact that the album is this unique and diverse in sound shows how wrong everyone's assumptions are regarding the returning to form theory. Also, it was one televised interview where he said that, it's not as if he has mentioned it dozens of times over and over again to try to brainwash the fans into believing that ATUM will be a similar sound as the other two albums. You gotta be pretty oblivious to not see what he actually means, and realize that the new songs were never meant to sound like anything from before. The songs are good, and countless fans agree. The only people who don't, are the ones who are hung up on a few things he said, that they decided somehow equate to Billy cheating his fans out of money. That theory is legitimately comical. Even if he originally meant that the album is a return to form and would be like Mellon Collie or Machina, then how exactly does that mean he's misleading anyone if to him that's what the album is. You people should really chill out and actually sit back and enjoy the music. You're creating such idiotic self inflicted drama, over something so incredibly petty. It's music for fuck sake. Do you realize how dumb you sound trying to convince people that Billy is dedicated to conspiring against the fans? 🤦🏼*♂️

 
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Old 11-22-2022, 10:52 AM   #92
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Referring to the band in general, returning to making music with a don't give a fuck mentality and making albums that involve taking risks. This album is very risky and by ignoring the people who tried to say it wasn't a good idea, they or Billy specifically have gone back to doing what they're good at. Which is making albums that get people's attention. Clearly they've succeeded this time around. Now go read the Guardian article interview, and watch the James Corden performance interview. Then listen to Act I and tell me again that he's trying to mislead people. Don't you think if he wanted to sell the record and get people to buy it, he'd have made something way different? The very fact that the album is this unique and diverse in sound shows how wrong everyone's assumptions are regarding the returning to form theory. Also, it was one televised interview where he said that, it's not as if he has mentioned it dozens of times over and over again to try to brainwash the fans into believing that ATUM will be a similar sound as the other two albums. You gotta be pretty oblivious to not see what he actually means, and realize that the new songs were never meant to sound like anything from before. The songs are good, and countless fans agree. The only people who don't, are the ones who are hung up on a few things he said, that they decided somehow equate to Billy cheating his fans out of money. That theory is legitimately comical. Even if he originally meant that the album is a return to form and would be like Mellon Collie or Machina, then how exactly does that mean he's misleading anyone if to him that's what the album is. You people should really chill out and actually sit back and enjoy the music. You're creating such idiotic self inflicted drama, over something so incredibly petty. It's music for fuck sake. Do you realize how dumb you sound trying to convince people that Billy is dedicated to conspiring against the fans? 🤦🏼*♂️
Isn’t it just deliciously great to read an essay about how actually i like ATUM, i just don’t know it yet? Lol thanks reddit where would i be without u

 
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Old 11-22-2022, 10:56 AM   #93
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Old 11-22-2022, 11:33 AM   #94
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Jesus..those speaking german...lol

https://www.laut.de/The-Smashing-Pum...m-Act-I-119625

Also ratings on sputnikmusic or albumoftheyear or rateyourmusic are so so bad...

Eviltimeban...did you already get banned at redfit for being negativ???

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 02:58 AM   #95
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Can confirm the SP Reddit is now deleting comments criticizing ATUM.

No wonder Bill can get away with this shit.

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:25 AM   #96
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Netphoria has decided. The average score out of 40 total votes is 2.9: there is a song or two we kinda like, we will listen a few times before forgetting this exists

Also wtf there are 40 of us. Guess most u fuckers lurkin, huh

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:34 AM   #97
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That’s 2.9 out of ten. This is NOT a three star record, nobody says it is

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:57 AM   #98
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The 0 thru 3 ratings are over the top. I believe out of 65 ratings albumoftheyear has it at 42/100. I’d say 5/10 is a realistic rating for this album.

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 04:49 AM   #99
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The bar was set too high almost 30 years ago (omg that stings to say). So I rated with the inclusion of residual disappointment. But even so, the description is accurate that I like 2-3 songs but won't be making it a point to listen to them often.

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:58 PM   #100
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Can confirm the SP Reddit is now deleting comments criticizing ATUM.

No wonder Bill can get away with this shit.
mine was cut. absolutely blindingly fucking stupid

mark of a good record

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 02:54 PM   #101
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Not sure why I thought reddit was more open to different opinions....

 
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Old 11-25-2022, 03:22 PM   #102
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The Good in Goodbye, Embracer, and Steps in Time are good and and earn it a 4 according to this scale, but 3 good songs is a big success to me at this point.

 
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Old 11-25-2022, 03:33 PM   #103
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a 2 or 3 for this is absolutely fair

in or out of context this fucking sucks as a whole, best thing about it is the album art

 
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Old 11-25-2022, 03:34 PM   #104
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maybe a bonus .5 for making the last few look better, that's a positive quality right?

 
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:32 PM   #105
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How can you read about an album for years and not be curious enough to listen even once?
I dunno, there's so much music out there and so little time that I already feel like I can never hope to get around to listening to everything I would like, which creates less urgency for listening to music that I would not like. I purchased Monuments fully expecting to listen to it, and it's sitting on my shelf still in its shrink wrap.

I think waiting with bated breath for each Teargarden release, only to be disappointed each time, really dampened my interest. And when Oceania came around, even though it was appreciably better than Teargarden, it just wasn't better enough to keep me interested. Like, would I listen to an album that's just "not bad" if it was released by literally any other band? Why spend time doing something boring?

 
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Old 11-30-2022, 11:41 AM   #106
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He hides a decent EP in each of these, or at least did up to CYR

I'll happily listen to most of Monuments save for Being Beige (which is just sort of "whatever) + Run2Me and Anti-Hero (which are actively bad)

Shiny, Marchin' On & With Sympathy are the winners from Shiny, w/ at least one or two of the well-recorded Solara live performances as a nice little bonus

CYR was where they pretty much lost my interest aggressively - I actually still haven't listened to that one in full - & this new thing by all means should have solidified of it but I guess the added uh, "circus" of it all gives it an added level of entertainment

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Old 11-30-2022, 12:04 PM   #107
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I reserve the right to adjust my score as new songs come out.

 
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:30 PM   #108
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He hides a decent EP in each of these, or at least did up to CYR

I'll happily listen to most of Monuments save for Being Beige (which is just sort of "whatever) + Run2Me and Anti-Hero (which are actively bad)

Shiny, Marchin' On & With Sympathy are the winners from Shiny, w/ at least one or two of the well-recorded Solara live performances as a nice little bonus

CYR was where they pretty much lost my interest aggressively - I actually still haven't listened to that one in full - & this new thing by all means should have solidified of it but I guess the added uh, "circus" of it all gives it an added level of entertainment
I agree with your assessment.

 
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Old 11-30-2022, 04:25 PM   #109
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This is simply not listenable or defendable. It has a low RYM and Sputnik score for a reason. It’s just bad.

 
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:15 PM   #110
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I thought this was a double album. Why are there 11 songs? There are two songs on this board (Avalanche and Empires) that aren't listed here. Are those part of ATUM or not? Is this ssome Ticktock Zoomer shit for the ADD generation? Wwhy are all of you little assholes on my lawn?

 
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:19 PM   #111
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I dunno, there's so much music out there and so little time that I already feel like I can never hope to get around to listening to everything I would like, which creates less urgency for listening to music that I would not like. I purchased Monuments fully expecting to listen to it, and it's sitting on my shelf still in its shrink wrap.

I think waiting with bated breath for each Teargarden release, only to be disappointed each time, really dampened my interest. And when Oceania came around, even though it was appreciably better than Teargarden, it just wasn't better enough to keep me interested. Like, would I listen to an album that's just "not bad" if it was released by literally any other band? Why spend time doing something boring?
So you'd rather read about people discussing an album you haven't listened to? Serious question.

 
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:20 PM   #112
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Maybe I'm just disappointed that we don't get a Disco King over-analysis of WHY it sucks

 
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Old 12-01-2022, 08:02 PM   #113
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having not listened to it I would be happy to give you a breakdown:

1.) no Moulder, no Flood, no Vig
2.) dropped consonants and vibrato galore, all too high in the mix with not enough space for the instruments to breathe
3.) too many clown show fuck shit noises such as whimsical synths as seen on TBK, whale noises on United States, timpani fuckery on the 20th anniversary tour, just general fuckery and whimsy
4.) no D'Arcy telling Billy when his ideas suck. Gotta have a D'Arcy or you get The Phantom Menace
5.) the good songs won't actually be on the album - they will go into the vault with 200 unheard Zwan songs and all of the other naughty children

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 01:50 PM   #114
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Alright I finally listened to this.

First of all this is the second album in a row that he's made that hasn't offended me and made me want to turn it off immediately. Is it good? No. But it's not fucking terrible

I really like Steps in Time even though it's cheesy as hell. IDK man I've been humming it. Butterfly Suite also seems okay and so does Hooligan. The rest I don't really remember. Except Hooray I guess.
Which is, I'm assuming, just a song for his kids? I don't think it would be as terrible if it were surrounded by better music and was like, the one song that sounded like a novelty song on the album. But the synths really make a lot of them sound that way.

Gave it a 3

 
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:57 PM   #115
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I'm with you on the songs you mentioned

His goddamned vocals are too abrasive to be so high

God the mixing is just terrible

Some good guitar shit in here it's just hard to hear

Where is the Bedazzled song or whatever that sounds vaguely like vintage Sabbath? I actually like that song

 
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:09 PM   #116
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It’s on the second part but towards the end of the album. Yeah really weird roll out of this album. I think someone compared it to Chinese water torture with the one track trickle every week. Let’s release the first single for the second part of the album, that will make total sense.

This whole thing is terribly terribly botched. An excruciatingly long winded podcast that nobody can sit thru. Not having the individual tracks available on Spotify each week. Total illogical clusterfuck marketing going on here.

 
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:32 PM   #117
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It is totally nonsense that the revealed tracks aren't available for streaming starting the next day

 
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:32 PM   #118
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No one is going to go clicking around a podcast to find it

 
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Old 12-09-2022, 04:52 PM   #119
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such an incredibly dumb release strategy

i suppose it's not like that cause then the GP would have the album early, and not just the freaks that cut it from the podcast

 
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:40 PM   #120
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they’d also struggle for podcast advertising if the songs were released separately.

 
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