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12-05-2022, 10:46 AM | #211 | |
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12-05-2022, 12:14 PM | #212 | |
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12-05-2022, 02:42 PM | #213 |
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12-05-2022, 02:56 PM | #214 |
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12-05-2022, 02:59 PM | #215 |
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Yes, i loved zwan, i was really excited about it, right up until i heard "honestly" on the radio and though...uh oh....
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12-05-2022, 04:02 PM | #216 |
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12-05-2022, 05:42 PM | #217 |
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12-05-2022, 09:19 PM | #218 |
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I honestly loved Honestly back then (and still like it to a certain extent).
I was 13 and super hyped because I just found out about the pumpkins and thought Zwan would be an equally magical ride |
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12-05-2022, 09:43 PM | #219 | |
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After listening to my 2002-Apr-5 bootleg from the Blue Note show for months and months, it just struck me as like hmmm this doesn't feel authentic, doesn't sound like zwan |
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12-05-2022, 09:52 PM | #220 |
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I did not like Honestly. I don't like the Zwan album. I do not look at Zwan as fondly as others do.
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12-05-2022, 09:52 PM | #221 |
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all of zwan was good but glass house era >>> everything else
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12-05-2022, 09:53 PM | #222 |
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MSOTS the song rips, the album is pretty good, miles and miles above anything ZG-now
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12-05-2022, 09:55 PM | #223 |
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12-05-2022, 11:02 PM | #224 |
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Still one of my favorite things Billy ever wrote, that includes the Pumpkins as well |
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12-05-2022, 11:14 PM | #225 |
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12-05-2022, 11:21 PM | #226 |
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12-05-2022, 11:41 PM | #227 |
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i actually think Honestly's alright, & like a few off the album but some of you are absolutely wearing very vivid rose-tinters when talking about Zwan (at least when it comes to acting like MSOTS is "miles above" ZG & co) because god damn that was just an insane steep drop-off being his first studio release after Machina
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12-06-2022, 01:03 AM | #228 |
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Personally, I recognize the steep disparity between pre-MSOTS Zwan and, well, MSOTS Zwan, but when that record came out, that was all I'd heard of them, and I liked it. There were some clunkers, but the songs I recall (I like Honestly a lot) were good. "Remove my spirit from darkness / Love become my hammer" is such a good line I'm still convinced he lifted it from something, but I've never been able to find out what. And the non-album stuff, hell, there's a lot of good shit there. When they worked, they were great.
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12-06-2022, 01:44 AM | #229 | |
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12-06-2022, 01:46 AM | #230 |
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But i never got into zeitgeist, can’t connect with it emotionally at all. Basically same problem up to today with post 2000 SP
However zwan has a looooooot of feeling including on msots |
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12-06-2022, 01:49 AM | #231 |
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If i want to go ooooh chexk out those blistering omf those wicked those guitars and wooo-eeee them killer drums, and not connect emotionally at all
There is Pantera and Metallica and all the other shit the younger folk listen to. As a bonus, these bands don’t have bored dry outrageously loud vocals ruining everything that is otherwise good in this shitworld |
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12-06-2022, 01:50 AM | #232 |
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Like i never connected with SP because they were a rockin metal band duuuuuude
It’s cause big willie had such big feelings that he felt so hard and i had so many hard feelings that i felt so big, that we connected…. Just me and big willie |
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12-06-2022, 01:51 AM | #233 |
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But now it’s just
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12-06-2022, 02:08 AM | #234 |
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I like Honestly about as much as I don't like the rest of the album. Mildly. They're very neutral, pleasant enough but no spice.
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12-06-2022, 05:20 AM | #235 |
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12-06-2022, 11:21 AM | #236 | |
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i don't love zeitgeist but it's at least more fun to listen to for me than most of the SP-related records surrounding it (excluding JCC) |
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12-06-2022, 03:09 PM | #237 |
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