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12-17-2014, 05:32 PM | #91 | |
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Their image was definitely an important factor for their resurgence during American Idiot, but most importantly: they had the music to back it up. |
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12-17-2014, 05:38 PM | #92 |
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Trots lets start a band called Your Anonymous As Judges.
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12-17-2014, 05:38 PM | #93 |
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12-17-2014, 05:40 PM | #94 |
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Johnny Rottens so "punk" with his huge wealth, his big mansion and his lavish lifestyle.
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12-17-2014, 05:40 PM | #95 |
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That's it fuzzy you can't be in our band.
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12-17-2014, 05:41 PM | #96 |
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People shit on American Idiot like Green Day was exploiting popular opinion in the W. Bush era, but I distinctly remember that no one was saying the kind of shit they did at the time the album came out. It's only post mortem with foggy hindsight that we can say "fuck Bush" and all that was cliche.
Sure they weren't as popular as ever, but they'd had "Good Riddance" and "Minority" on the last two albums. Those were pretty freaking big hits. I have no personal connection to the band other than liking their music, but I feel the need to defend their "image" crisis. When Corgan fails to effectively market his music everyone here jumps all over it. What Green Day did was smart. They tapped into their influences, into a different side of them that no one had heard coming from Green Day music before. And part of that influence was the image and political culture of punk music in the 70's. You'd figure no one had ever heard of a guy named Joe Strummer? Homage, ripoff, whatever you want to call it, it was a smart thing to do and it worked. It didn't feel forced to me. |
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12-17-2014, 06:28 PM | #97 |
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I used to love Green Day, but nowadays the only two albums I can really listen to are 'Dookie' and 'American Idiot', and they happen to be their best sellers. When I was a teenager 'Insomniac' was my favourite, and I rated Nimrod. 'Kerplunk!' had '2,000 Light Years Away,' a song that will always mean a lot to me. I liked the 'Stop, Drop, Roll' album they put out under the 'Foxboro Hot Tubs' moniker. Will have to give that another listen, I think.
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12-17-2014, 07:18 PM | #98 | |
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just asking, I'm curious why you do it, you seem desperate that people perceive you as "a man." you want to tell "the kids" what music is worth listening to - although there are only a few posters on here who are a few years younger than you and already have a broad taste in music, while you are 28 going on 12, call your band monkey piss and a halfassed joke picture "a promotion picture for my band", make a living by gambling and want other adults to do the same, post about NOFX, green day or whatever else "grown men" hardly care for, all that on a messageboard whenever you are completely drunk or stoned. don't get me wrong, obviously I do it, too, but what's up with this grown man talk? have some guys (or girls) repeatedly made fun of you that you are an immature teenager at heart or something? and for you laughing at punk - I respect a bunch of folks in their late 40ies and 50ies as "grown men" - because they are, and they still live the "punk lifestyle", for better or worse, because that's who they are. who are you to decide what concept of living is ridiculous? how is the wallstreet banker lifestlye of a 40 year old any less ridiculous? or your own lifestyle? |
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12-17-2014, 07:40 PM | #99 |
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and can I just add that punk is far from over and done with - just look at Asia.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-817185.html http://thenewwave.asia/ http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-punks-007.jpg fuzzy probably prefers youtube clips over reading - found one: "the first punk band I heard were the Sex Pistols, Anarchy in the UK. I found a DVD on a street market" Last edited by pavementtune : 12-17-2014 at 07:52 PM. |
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12-17-2014, 08:28 PM | #100 |
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So Rotten can't tell the difference between your and you're either? Disappointing.........or very punk. Can't decide.
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12-17-2014, 08:33 PM | #101 |
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12-17-2014, 08:51 PM | #102 | |
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Everything that's over ends up in Asia it's culture's last stop |
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12-17-2014, 08:54 PM | #103 |
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12-17-2014, 08:58 PM | #104 |
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But I for sure agree with the "Punk is not a haircut" thing. Punk lives on forever, but the Mohawk and safety pins style punk died and good riddance
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12-17-2014, 09:02 PM | #105 |
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12-17-2014, 09:09 PM | #106 |
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I'm not being serious. Referring to Asia as one place is a joke to begin with
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12-17-2014, 09:12 PM | #107 |
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The Sex Pistols were lucky that their country's censorship laws weren't so tight that it would make their lifestyle a matter of life and death.
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12-17-2014, 09:15 PM | #108 |
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That is seriously Punk that they rock on even knowing that they could face imprisonment and even death for it
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12-17-2014, 09:54 PM | #109 |
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I WAS A YOUNG MAN I HAD BIG PLANS NOW I'M JUST ANOTHER SHITTY OLD MAN THE WORLD OWES ME SO FUCK YOU
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12-17-2014, 09:56 PM | #110 |
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12-17-2014, 11:00 PM | #111 | |
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12-17-2014, 11:02 PM | #112 | |
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by the way if you're a grown man you certainly don't act like it. you're a grown teenager maybe Last edited by Trotskilicious : 12-18-2014 at 12:03 AM. |
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12-17-2014, 11:04 PM | #113 | |
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honestly being rich and still being disruptive to the status quo is still punk. we aren't talking about marxism here |
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12-17-2014, 11:21 PM | #114 |
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i don't have fun and i hate everything
the world owes me so fuck you! |
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12-17-2014, 11:22 PM | #115 |
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insomniac rocks though
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12-17-2014, 11:24 PM | #116 |
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Punk is when the people that don't fit into traditional society get together to make fun of how dumb it is
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12-17-2014, 11:26 PM | #117 |
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i take it back tho, copying 35 y.o. fads is punk if you could go to prison for it
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12-17-2014, 11:35 PM | #118 |
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12-17-2014, 11:41 PM | #119 |
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I don't feel like hipsters are even a thing
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12-17-2014, 11:45 PM | #120 |
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I feel like the fashion is very descendent of the thrift store aesthetic though without the sex shop and safety pin thing of punk. So like, post-punk fashion.
But I don't really understand why facial hair is back in style. Though I did see someone with one of those big ironic curly mustaches and I just thought it was pretty Punk to go around like that. |
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