Good In Goodbye

[ilikeplanets]

Originally Posted by BlissedandGone2

People picturing Jimmy just laying down totally random beats and sending them to Corgan to go "Hmm I think I can put a song on top of this one" 😂, y'all are crazy.

The problem is that it's not an entirely unreasonable assumption at this point

[pinetree]

i gave this track a couple days before forming an opinion

conclusion... it doesn't suck but also not great, it doesn't have a fucking chorus! it's half assed.

[Ram27]

Originally Posted by slunken

one thing i've learned from the podcast is that jimmy is a lot dumber than fans would think

examples please

[Ram27]

i mean [i think] he's a good guy but he did a lot of drugs

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

Billy demoed songs, sometimes with Jimmy as they are neighbours. James and Jeff got the demos and recorded/created based on them and sent them back to Billy.

Later on they would get together to rehearse/play the songs having that patch work as a starting point. The song could totally change during the process until the final recording session.

this is not what happened at all lmfao

[cork_soaker]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

Billy demoed songs, sometimes with Jimmy as they are neighbours

i certainly wouldn't mind a slunken webcomic featuring jim and bill communicating via tin can telephone

[Ram27]

b: jim pls play cherub rock until your hands bleed

j:

[cork_soaker]

EXT. CORGAN MANSION – DUSK

The curtains of an upstairs window part. Billy's face appears, eyes squinted toward the adjacent Chamberlin residence, where sounds of familial mirth dance warmly in the fading twilight. He places cupped hands on either side of his mouth.

...................................BILLY
................................Ring, ring.

...................................BILLY
..............................(more urgently)
................................Ring, ring!

[cork_soaker]

Billy places the open end of a used soup can over his ear. He scowls impatiently.

[cork_soaker]

...................................BILLY
.......................(with rapidly increasing ire)
..............................Ring, ring, ring!

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by Ram27

b: jim pls play cherub rock until your hands bleed

j:

bill: *drives jimmy to drug use via his insane perfectionism during siamese dream era*
bill: *adds the most out of tune mellotron ive ever heard to spaceboy*

[ZWANPHONY]

so nobody is gonna comment on the Easter egg at the end of the song? It's a clue! Machina Mystery part 3!

Shine!

[ZWANPHONY]

And let it be known I very carefully chose what my first reply would be after taking a 6 year hiatus on Netphobia. 🙃

[silverstrat]

This is like teargarden where they released a song on a certain cadence. Except now they hired interviewers to blow them for 20 minutes leading up to the track.

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by slunken

one thing i've learned from the podcast is that jimmy is a lot dumber than fans would think

ppl forget it was Jimmy who gave us "burn the lies off the souls" quote

[houseofglass11]

Jimmy came across fine on the podcast. The story about him stopping drumming during an I Am One rant on Lolla and pacing back and forth behind the drum kit smoking while Billy insulted the audience was gold. Billy also said that some of the band members (*cough* James and D’arcy) thought the rants went too far sometimes and that it was bad for business to insult the audience and other bands. They weren’t wrong.

[paranoid]

Jimmy being dumb- you’ve got to be a real isolated cunt with no friends to read into it that way.

Speaking of dumb, I’ve read a lot of dumb shit on this board lately. The majority of the cynicism isn’t even intelligent anymore. The cynicism used to be so authentic and backed by legit arguments. Now it’s just a bunch of bozos guessing what they think they *know* is going on. Hatephoria no more

Bring your A game, assholes.

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Jimmy came across fine on the podcast. The story about him stopping drumming during an I Am One rant on Lolla and pacing back and forth behind the drum kit smoking while Billy insulted the audience was gold. Billy also said that some of the band members (*cough* James and D’arcy) thought the rants went too far sometimes and that it was bad for business to insult the audience and other bands. They weren’t wrong.

Jimmy comes across way more intelligently than billy does, that’s for sure.

[Squish Squash]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Jimmy came across fine on the podcast. The story about him stopping drumming during an I Am One rant on Lolla and pacing back and forth behind the drum kit smoking while Billy insulted the audience was gold. Billy also said that some of the band members (*cough* James and D’arcy) thought the rants went too far sometimes and that it was bad for business to insult the audience and other bands. They weren’t wrong.

I have seen all 3 other members of the classic lineup look exasperated by the I Am One rants tbh, although D'Arcy was by far the most obvious about it.

[eviltimeban]

I listened to this one, cos it was JC and I wanted to hear it.

It was alright. Telling that at the outset of the band Billy informed them that he would NOT be taking onboard any feedback on the lyrics; in fact they were expressly forbidden to comment on his lyrics.

With regards to Good in Goodbye, does anyone think the drumming isn't that great? I mean technically it's good, but I don't like some of the things he does, like those straight snare hits (just annoying) and also I'm not crazy about the way it goes double time. I'm never a fan of that; one of the later Oceania songs did that (Inkless? Chimera? Can't remember).

[Spaceboy88]

Originally Posted by slunken

one thing i've learned from the podcast is that jimmy is a lot dumber than fans would think

No, he's not dumb, he's normal. He just wants to play drums and get paid. He doesn't know or give a shit about half the things Billy writes or sings. Don't mistake apathy for lack of intelligence.

[topleybird]

Originally Posted by ZWANPHONY

so nobody is gonna comment on the Easter egg at the end of the song? It's a clue! Machina Mystery part 3!

Shine!

Uh no it's enihs

The good Shiny is in the Lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary.

[dustrocck]

Originally Posted by topleybird

Uh no it's enihs

The good Shiny is in the Lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary.

that fuzz you like will come back in style

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Spaceboy88

No, he's not dumb, he's normal. He just wants to play drums and get paid. He doesn't know or give a shit about half the things Billy writes or sings. Don't mistake apathy for lack of intelligence.

Originally Posted by paranoid

Jimmy being dumb-

okay this is fair. he does just seem like a normal midwestern guy. source: from the midwest

i just felt that sometimes he tries (especially nowadays) to describe loftier ideas than he is capable of. I just remember thinking "this guy ran a tech company??"

that said, i do think he's at least a teeny tiny bit guilty of trying to sound smarter than he actually is. like he won't admit the magic is "idk dude i just do it"

[jimmy drevpile]

Originally Posted by paranoid

...

Speaking of dumb, I’ve read a lot of dumb shit on this board lately. The majority of the cynicism isn’t even intelligent anymore. The cynicism used to be so authentic and backed by legit arguments. Now it’s just a bunch of bozos guessing what they think they *know* is going on...
....

[ZWANPHONY]

Originally Posted by topleybird

Uh no it's enihs

The good Shiny is in the Lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary.

I knew I would mess up my first post in 6 yrs. 😞

"!Enins" I forgot I was listening to the whole track in reverse...sounds a little worse now that I've listened to it in forward lol

[run2pee]

The Ass in Sucksass

[houseofglass11]

The Turd in Topleybird

[enthusaroo]

The Poop In Billy's Corn

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by slunken

okay this is fair. he does just seem like a normal midwestern guy. source: from the midwest

i just felt that sometimes he tries (especially nowadays) to describe loftier ideas than he is capable of. I just remember thinking "this guy ran a tech company??"

that said, i do think he's at least a teeny tiny bit guilty of trying to sound smarter than he actually is. like he won't admit the magic is "idk dude i just do it"

Spending 30 years around Billy Corgan might do that to a man