Appreciation for Firewall / Black Oblivion

Spaceboy88 · 09-26-2022, 08:56 AM

Such a fantastic song. A shame it's not streaming anywhere, I imagine it would be very popular with the "newer" fans that don't remember this from back in the day.

eviltimeban · 09-26-2022, 09:13 AM

I'd never heard that before.

If only he sang like this now / produced his vocals this way.

pumpkins · 09-26-2022, 09:34 AM

Why Iommi when you have Schroeder?

Squish Squash · 09-26-2022, 10:18 AM

Billy could probably still sound good if Tony Iommi wrote his music.

Ram27 · 09-26-2022, 10:29 AM

what is this? what is this from? who played on this?

yes, those good vocals just instantly click. perfect

pumpkins · 09-26-2022, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squish Squash

Billy could probably still sound good if Tony Iommi wrote his music.

Even Ozzy would sound good if Tony Iommi wrote his music.

Cool As Ice Cream · 09-26-2022, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram27

what is this? what is this from? who played on this?

yes, those good vocals just instantly click. perfect

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/d...?discog_id=193

Cool As Ice Cream · 09-26-2022, 10:35 AM

https://www.discogs.com/release/1541239-Iommi-Iommi

Black Oblivion
Bass – Billy Corgan
Drums – Kenny Aronoff
Featuring – Billy Corgan
Guitar [Additional] – Billy Corgan
Written-By – Corgan*, Iommi*

Cool As Ice Cream · 09-26-2022, 10:35 AM

so no iommi?

Squish Squash · 09-26-2022, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpkins

Even Ozzy would sound good if Tony Iommi wrote his music.

Ozzy (before he damaged his voice) was a significantly better singer than Billy ever was. Weird comment.

enthusaroo · 09-26-2022, 11:15 AM

this sounds 10,000x better than Begayiled

NovaFritz · 09-26-2022, 01:28 PM

Cool, this is basically an Aronoff/Corgan collab, just like the original Cash Car Star.

NovaFritz · 09-26-2022, 01:29 PM

The original

Spaceboy88 · 09-26-2022, 01:33 PM

I have the Iommi CD with this track but apparently it's out of print and so hard to find now. You can't even buy the mp3s on iTunes/Amazon, etc. It's surprising that the Iommi camp would just let this disappear into the ether.

Squish Squash · 09-26-2022, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceboy88

I have the Iommi CD with this track but apparently it's out of print and so hard to find now. You can't even buy the mp3s on iTunes/Amazon, etc. It's surprising that the Iommi camp would just let this disappear into the ether.

Yeah that is bizarre considering Ozzy is on a song as well (and Bill Ward! No Geezer for some reason. I still count it as a Sabbath song tho cuz 3/4 is close enough)

Joey Goldberg · 09-26-2022, 02:21 PM

i believe those were beautiful, wonderful, hot, and tasty!

thx spaceboy, easy to forget some of the greatness our bald lord & savior bestowed on us between the machines & oceania considering how much of it seems completely absent from all or at least most mainstream media & streaming

Spaceboy88 · 09-26-2022, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

i believe those were beautiful, wonderful, hot, and tasty!

thx spaceboy, easy to forget some of the greatness our bald lord & savior bestowed on us between the machines & oceania considering how much of it seems completely absent from all or at least most mainstream media & streaming

Another lost gem is "Ascendo" which is a great Billy & Jimmy instrumental. I remember it took me months to find a record store that carried this random-ass compilation.

brothahi4L · 09-26-2022, 02:58 PM

Oblivion rock, but ascendo doesnt imo

deadlecturer · 09-26-2022, 04:38 PM

This song just doesn't have that certain je nais se quoi/despondent/phoned in quality of SP in 2022.

When I hear the drums responding to the shotgun in the lyrics, I get the feeling the band was there for more than a paycheck. It's outside the business model you guys.

Spaceboy88 · 09-26-2022, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlecturer

This song just doesn't have that certain je nais se quoi/despondent/phoned in quality of SP in 2022.

When I hear the drums responding to the shotgun in the lyrics, I get the feeling the band was there for more than a paycheck. It's outside the business model you guys.

Yes, the recording these days might as well use [insert random no-name session drummer here] to save money and keep that biz model sustainable.

houseofglass11 · 09-26-2022, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceboy88

Another lost gem is "Ascendo" which is a great Billy & Jimmy instrumental. I remember it took me months to find a record store that carried this random-ass compilation.

I found that weird Guitar World cd in an antique emporium a few weeks back. Best track on it is the Kim Thayil one.

Corgan's Bluff · 09-27-2022, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceboy88

I have the Iommi CD with this track but apparently it's out of print and so hard to find now. You can't even buy the mp3s on iTunes/Amazon, etc. It's surprising that the Iommi camp would just let this disappear into the ether.

You only have to look at YouTube to get a bunch of its recording...

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09-26-2022, 08:56 AM	#1
Spaceboy88 Apocalyptic Poster Location: NYC Posts: 1,556	Appreciation for Firewall / Black Oblivion Such a fantastic song. A shame it's not streaming anywhere, I imagine it would be very popular with the "newer" fans that don't remember this from back in the day.

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09-26-2022, 09:13 AM	#2
eviltimeban Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,143	I'd never heard that before. If only he sang like this now / produced his vocals this way.

09-26-2022, 09:34 AM	#3
pumpkins Ownz Location: Portugal Posts: 534	Why Iommi when you have Schroeder?

09-26-2022, 10:18 AM	#4
Squish Squash Apocalyptic Poster Location: I should kick you in the sides Posts: 2,265	Billy could probably still sound good if Tony Iommi wrote his music.

09-26-2022, 10:29 AM	#5
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	what is this? what is this from? who played on this? yes, those good vocals just instantly click. perfect

09-26-2022, 10:35 AM	#8
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	https://www.discogs.com/release/1541239-Iommi-Iommi Black Oblivion Bass – Billy Corgan Drums – Kenny Aronoff Featuring – Billy Corgan Guitar [Additional] – Billy Corgan Written-By – Corgan, Iommi

09-26-2022, 11:15 AM	#11
enthusaroo Apocalyptic Poster Location: ameriKKKa Posts: 2,749	this sounds 10,000x better than Begayiled

09-26-2022, 01:28 PM	#12
NovaFritz Apocalyptic Poster Location: luna Posts: 2,721	Cool, this is basically an Aronoff/Corgan collab, just like the original Cash Car Star.

09-26-2022, 01:29 PM	#13
NovaFritz Apocalyptic Poster Location: luna Posts: 2,721	The original

09-26-2022, 01:33 PM	#14
Spaceboy88 Apocalyptic Poster Location: NYC Posts: 1,556	I have the Iommi CD with this track but apparently it's out of print and so hard to find now. You can't even buy the mp3s on iTunes/Amazon, etc. It's surprising that the Iommi camp would just let this disappear into the ether.

09-26-2022, 02:21 PM	#16
Joey Goldberg Minion of Satan Location: andy dick NAKED Posts: 8,229	i believe those were beautiful, wonderful, hot, and tasty! thx spaceboy, easy to forget some of the greatness our bald lord & savior bestowed on us between the machines & oceania considering how much of it seems completely absent from all or at least most mainstream media & streaming

09-26-2022, 02:58 PM	#18
brothahi4L Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,714	Oblivion rock, but ascendo doesnt imo

09-26-2022, 04:38 PM	#19
deadlecturer Pledge Posts: 78	This song just doesn't have that certain je nais se quoi/despondent/phoned in quality of SP in 2022. When I hear the drums responding to the shotgun in the lyrics, I get the feeling the band was there for more than a paycheck. It's outside the business model you guys.