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Old 08-21-2020, 03:43 PM   #331
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I support violent revolutions in some cases, yes. Would you really be crying if people guillotined the likes of Trump, McConnell, Biden, Pelosi, etc.?
Red herring strawman. Address what I said

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:49 PM   #332
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Red herring strawman. Address what I said
I did. I told you in order to get the system I want America likely needs a revolution that is at least somewhat violent. People like the ones I mentioned are actively killing the working class. They are, in fact, violent but Iím sure you ok with Bidenís violent policies killing people.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:52 PM   #333
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I did. I told you in order to get the system I want America likely needs a revolution that is at least somewhat violent. People like the ones I mentioned are actively killing the working class. They are, in fact, violent but Iím sure you ok with Bidenís violent policies killing people.
So you advocate the violent overthrow and murder of those who control the means of production and the complete annihilation of democracy and the US government?

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:53 PM   #334
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Call me crazy but I feel like you might have read the spark notes to the c.m.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:55 PM   #335
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So you advocate the violent overthrow and murder of those who control the means of production and the complete annihilation of democracy and the US government?
I would support some of that. A Marxist does not have to agree with all of Marx’s theories, I hope you are aware of that, but you are so ridiculously obtuse I doubt you are. Do you agree with all of the Democratic party’s beliefs? No, but you’ll still slavishly support them, thus you are a Democrat.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:57 PM   #336
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I would support some of that. A Marxist does not have to agree with all of Marxís theories, I hope you are aware of that, but you are so ridiculously obtuse I doubt you are. Do you agree with all of the Democratic partyís beliefs? No, but youíll still slavishly support them, thus you are a Democrat.
Which parts be specific because Marxism is not a flexible ideology. He was literally describing the inevitable end of history.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:00 PM   #337
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Which parts be specific because Marxism is not a flexible ideology. He was literally describing the inevitable end of history.
Marxism isn’t flexible and yet there are multiple different Marxist schools of thought. You are absolutely hilarious. If someone violently overthrew the US government establishment in order to install a government similar to Salvador Allende’s I would support them. I would worry about an authoritarian coming to power though, which is why I am more in favor of libertarian Marxism.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:55 PM   #338
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you seem more crazy every time you post

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:57 PM   #339
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libertarian marxism LOL

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:59 PM   #340
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Old 08-21-2020, 05:33 PM   #341
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Lenin would have considered voting for Bernie Sanders to be the lesser of two evils

it's well documented that he supported voting for the furthest left candidates that could win anyway

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 05:44 PM   #342
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the revolutionary model is not totally incompatible with short term reform

you'd want the right conditions for revolution, or you could just as easily end up in a fascist state

I've also heard it argued that it's through the process of reform and then the bourgeois class continual walking back of that reform that the left eventually arrives at revolution, realizing they can go no further under capitalism

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:17 PM   #343
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libertarian marxism LOL
That's a thing, you know.

Pretty much, Marxists opposed the the idea of having a "vanguard party" that must lead the proles who are too stupid to lead themselves.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:24 PM   #344
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Which parts be specific because Marxism is not a flexible ideology. He was literally describing the inevitable end of history.
also could be said to be arguing the continuation of history

rather than capitalism being the end of history

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 08:23 PM   #345
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Old 08-21-2020, 08:35 PM   #346
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In this thread, everybody proves they did attend some classes during orientation week.

 
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:44 PM   #347
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If trump wins again think he’ll make it illegal to fartfuck a dad in the face

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 07:10 AM   #348
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That's a thing, you know.

Pretty much, Marxists opposed the the idea of having a "vanguard party" that must lead the proles who are too stupid to lead themselves.
I know what it is, hence the LOL. One of my BAs is in Philosophy

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:50 PM   #349
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If trump wins again think heíll make it illegal to fartfuck a dad in the face
Asking for my dad

He knows jackshit about politics. But one thing he knows is about how much he loves a good fartfuck to the face

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:26 PM   #350
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I know what it is, hence the LOL. One of my BAs is in Philosophy
Is Libertarian Marxism any more absurd than any other subtype of Marxism?

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:44 PM   #351
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jesus is coming!!

 
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somebody grab a towel

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 02:46 PM   #353
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If trump wins again think heíll make it illegal to fartfuck a dad in the face
First good reason to vote for Biden Iíve heard.

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:02 PM   #354
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other than alleviating the suffering of millions of people and the possible collapse of our democracy

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:21 PM   #355
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Is Libertarian Marxism any more absurd than any other subtype of Marxism?
If you put it that way.. no.

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other than alleviating the suffering of millions of people and the possible collapse of our democracy
Tell me what specific things Biden is going to that will alleviate suffering. If we lived in a real democracy, Bernie would be the nominee, so itís pretty hilarious to hear a diehard liberal shrieking about the ďfall of DemocracyĒ.

 
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First good reason to vote for Biden Iíve heard.
Now your eyes are open.

 
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:47 PM   #358
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Tell me what specific things Biden is going to that will alleviate suffering. If we lived in a real democracy, Bernie would be the nominee, so itís pretty hilarious to hear a diehard liberal shrieking about the ďfall of DemocracyĒ.
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Old 08-22-2020, 05:46 PM   #359
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Tell me what specific things Biden is going to that will alleviate suffering. If we lived in a real democracy, Bernie would be the nominee, so it’s pretty hilarious to hear a diehard liberal shrieking about the “fall of Democracy”.
You’ve been given many reasons and you refuse to answer what anyone is saying without moving the goal posts. Also I’m not a liberal, I’m just not an ideologically masturbatory imbecile

Also Bernie got less votes. And he lost far worse this year than last time. What the fuck do you think democracy is

 
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Youíve been given many reasons and you refuse to answer what anyone is saying without moving the goal posts. Also Iím not a liberal, Iím just not an ideologically masturbatory imbecile

Also Bernie got less votes. And he lost far worse this year than last time. What the fuck do you think democracy is
You are an enormous liberal who the hell do you think youíre fooling? No leftist gets this upset about someone not voting for one of the two right wing candidates. I havenít been given any reasons besides ďbut TrumpĒ. You havenít given me a single thing Biden is actually good on, you simply shriek about Trump being worse. Thatís not very encouraging. And I literally posted evidence that it was rigged against Bernie but I know you ignored it because you canít handle criticism of the Democratic Party.

 
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