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10-04-2022, 03:44 PM | #61 |
ILL KILL UR DOG
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You could just quit the band, stop being a victim of abuse mang
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10-04-2022, 06:52 PM | #62 |
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10-04-2022, 07:05 PM | #63 |
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I'm yrevery glad you all understood what I meant and that I do not need to be debriefed by you.
All questions of quality aside, nobody's the same person they were 25 years ago, for better or worse. I mean, maybe Billy could stand to chow down on some garmonbozia to get some of that edge back, maybe |
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10-04-2022, 07:13 PM | #64 |
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10-04-2022, 07:14 PM | #65 |
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also I take exception to "Fuckshit Clownmusic"
That was Teargarden by Kalidoscope (I know he put a Y in there somewhere but fuck off) Althoguh technically we are on release 8 or 9 or so of the 33 disc epic albums within an album TBK |
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10-04-2022, 07:35 PM | #66 |
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PARTY TIME
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10-04-2022, 09:37 PM | #67 |
Minion of Satan
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10-04-2022, 09:38 PM | #68 |
Minion of Satan
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10-04-2022, 09:39 PM | #69 |
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10-04-2022, 09:40 PM | #70 |
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The frequency of the palm-muting really does show that he's pretty much just focused on creating earworms - big dumb catchy hits.
I wouldn't say he's "not about the music at all anymore" - he still has his moments - but if there's a single argument for how much about recapturing success he is at all costs, it's how so many of his singles have been obviously "written to be hits" going back to Zeitgeist and Tarantula. Chunka-chunka-chunka-chunk everybody dance along. He's completely forgotten how to write a good single that stands on its own without it necessarily needing to be a single. |
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10-04-2022, 09:45 PM | #71 |
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bugg superstar is 100x better than any of this shit.
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10-04-2022, 09:51 PM | #72 |
Minion of Satan
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Dbl pst
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10-04-2022, 09:52 PM | #73 |
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How is it that a band that invented new frontiers of distorted guitar tone is giving me some of the most boring guitar i have ever heard
Like, holy fuck how is anyone connecting with this? Of all the big willie stunts we’ve been put through, this seems most to me like it has to be a trolljob, “the guitars are back!” “Yaaaaaayheeewyyaaa” “but get this they sound like shit and they don’t do anything!!!!” |
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10-04-2022, 09:58 PM | #74 |
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There's a few tracks on the album that have like 7-9 minute runtimes. If he's going to actually do any impressive playing or composing, that's where I'd hope to see it happen. But I'm not expecting the 2nd coming of Porcelina or GATGC or anything.
Doesn't mean they won't have completely impenetrable impersonal overly flowerly lyrics though! |
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10-04-2022, 10:09 PM | #75 |
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10-05-2022, 12:06 AM | #76 |
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i've mostly been grooving with the new stuff, but yet i also half agree with the thread about it sounding terribly dry and obligate
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10-05-2022, 12:29 AM | #77 |
full of longing
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everything now is a consequence of bill refusing to experience his insecurities and fears
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10-05-2022, 12:31 AM | #78 |
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He is going for hits??
A hit normally has a catchy chorus...tell me one song off atum that has a catchy chorus???? |
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10-05-2022, 12:34 AM | #79 |
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He often says this song was inspired by bowie ....but when i hear butterfly or embracer i hear chewing gum pop that is not allowed to breathe cause belly is singing on almost every single fucking second of the songs.
Butterfly is the worst second song of any pumpkins album. How can u choose such a shitsong as an opener??? |
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10-05-2022, 05:05 AM | #80 |
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Belly now thinks he's a singer who plays guitar instead of a guitar player who sings.
Pair that with the most pathetic ego trip of the last 20 years et voilà that "character" is born |
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10-05-2022, 06:22 AM | #81 |
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no one has said it yet..
but "Shiny" is a stupid af name |
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10-05-2022, 06:47 AM | #82 |
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Hey, what if I pick a throwaway word chosen cos it fits a rhyme scheme and turn it into a "Ziggy Stardust / Aladdin Sane" character decades later, and infuse all my music with very unpopular costumes, aesthetics and narratives around these "characters" despite my only published poetry work being panned and never publishing any narrative fiction? And despite the whole enterprise being sub-bootleg Bowie... and what if... when it fails commerically, I just keep doing it for the rest of my career anyway, even though it was supposedly just a phase?
It'll cost me my career as world-class guitarist, songwriter and rock star? OK... I'm in! |
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10-05-2022, 07:43 AM | #83 |
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is it like some sort of schizophrenic episode, the zero/shitty/ass thing
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10-05-2022, 07:47 AM | #84 |
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It's like some sort of mask. Makes no sense to keep doing this performative character.... also remarkable Glass and Shiny are both bald men in dresses. Only difference is Shiny wears facepaint and whatever fabric is lying around Chloe Mendel's workspace at the time.
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10-05-2022, 08:55 AM | #85 |
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The most evident difference between the good music era and bad music era is Darcy in and Darcy out.
Who knows she had a word. |
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10-05-2022, 09:41 AM | #86 | |
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Quote:
funny because it's true |
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10-05-2022, 10:05 AM | #87 |
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Wait.. we're still trapped in the Teargarden?!
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10-05-2022, 10:35 AM | #88 |
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not trying to be a str8 up h8r of the new stuff, i give it all an honest chance, but lol @ the concept of a potential new fan hopping into "This is Smashing Pumpkins" & just getting fucking smacked w/ this in the middle of all the OG stuff
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10-05-2022, 10:35 AM | #89 |
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What's gonna happen is, the 10 boxset songs are going to be old style, psychedelic / shoegaze, interesting guitar songs with good vocals. IOW what we know and love about SP.
BUT HE WON'T RELEASE THEM PROPERLY, FOR HE IS BILLY CORGAN. |
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10-05-2022, 01:40 PM | #90 | |
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Imagine being so beguiled by Beguiled you just move on to something else, missing out on Zero and Luna. fckin n8mare |
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