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Old 10-04-2022, 03:44 PM   #61
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You could just quit the band, stop being a victim of abuse mang

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 06:52 PM   #62
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Gossamer was the last great SP rocker.. and that song is from 2006

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Old 10-04-2022, 07:05 PM   #63
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Isn't the same man, man. Get it together, 'phoria!
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I'm yrevery glad you all understood what I meant and that I do not need to be debriefed by you.



All questions of quality aside, nobody's the same person they were 25 years ago, for better or worse.

I mean, maybe Billy could stand to chow down on some garmonbozia to get some of that edge back, maybe

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 07:13 PM   #64
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what's the densest no frills no room classic SP song you can think of?

Zero?

that's like the only one i can think of
you say no frills but we both know Bolly Corgan went insane layering over 100 guitars into that 150 second song, and it shows

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 07:14 PM   #65
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also I take exception to "Fuckshit Clownmusic"

That was Teargarden by Kalidoscope (I know he put a Y in there somewhere but fuck off)

Althoguh technically we are on release 8 or 9 or so of the 33 disc epic albums within an album TBK

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 07:35 PM   #66
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PARTY TIME

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:37 PM   #67
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also I take exception to "Fuckshit Clownmusic"

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:38 PM   #68
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:39 PM   #69
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:40 PM   #70
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The frequency of the palm-muting really does show that he's pretty much just focused on creating earworms - big dumb catchy hits.

I wouldn't say he's "not about the music at all anymore" - he still has his moments - but if there's a single argument for how much about recapturing success he is at all costs, it's how so many of his singles have been obviously "written to be hits" going back to Zeitgeist and Tarantula. Chunka-chunka-chunka-chunk everybody dance along. He's completely forgotten how to write a good single that stands on its own without it necessarily needing to be a single.

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:45 PM   #71
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bugg superstar is 100x better than any of this shit.

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:51 PM   #72
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:52 PM   #73
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How is it that a band that invented new frontiers of distorted guitar tone is giving me some of the most boring guitar i have ever heard

Like, holy fuck how is anyone connecting with this? Of all the big willie stunts we’ve been put through, this seems most to me like it has to be a trolljob, “the guitars are back!” “Yaaaaaayheeewyyaaa” “but get this they sound like shit and they don’t do anything!!!!”

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:58 PM   #74
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There's a few tracks on the album that have like 7-9 minute runtimes. If he's going to actually do any impressive playing or composing, that's where I'd hope to see it happen. But I'm not expecting the 2nd coming of Porcelina or GATGC or anything.

Doesn't mean they won't have completely impenetrable impersonal overly flowerly lyrics though!

 
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Old 10-04-2022, 10:09 PM   #75
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bugg superstar is 100x better than any of this shit.
SO true bestie

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:06 AM   #76
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i've mostly been grooving with the new stuff, but yet i also half agree with the thread about it sounding terribly dry and obligate

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:29 AM   #77
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everything now is a consequence of bill refusing to experience his insecurities and fears

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:31 AM   #78
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He is going for hits??
A hit normally has a catchy chorus...tell me one song off atum that has a catchy chorus????

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:34 AM   #79
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He often says this song was inspired by bowie ....but when i hear butterfly or embracer i hear chewing gum pop that is not allowed to breathe cause belly is singing on almost every single fucking second of the songs.
Butterfly is the worst second song of any pumpkins album.

How can u choose such a shitsong as an opener???

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 05:05 AM   #80
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Belly now thinks he's a singer who plays guitar instead of a guitar player who sings.

Pair that with the most pathetic ego trip of the last 20 years et voilà that "character" is born

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 06:22 AM   #81
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no one has said it yet..

but "Shiny" is a stupid af name

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 06:47 AM   #82
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Hey, what if I pick a throwaway word chosen cos it fits a rhyme scheme and turn it into a "Ziggy Stardust / Aladdin Sane" character decades later, and infuse all my music with very unpopular costumes, aesthetics and narratives around these "characters" despite my only published poetry work being panned and never publishing any narrative fiction? And despite the whole enterprise being sub-bootleg Bowie... and what if... when it fails commerically, I just keep doing it for the rest of my career anyway, even though it was supposedly just a phase?

It'll cost me my career as world-class guitarist, songwriter and rock star?

OK... I'm in!

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:43 AM   #83
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is it like some sort of schizophrenic episode, the zero/shitty/ass thing

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:47 AM   #84
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is it like some sort of schizophrenic episode, the zero/shitty/ass thing
It's like some sort of mask. Makes no sense to keep doing this performative character.... also remarkable Glass and Shiny are both bald men in dresses. Only difference is Shiny wears facepaint and whatever fabric is lying around Chloe Mendel's workspace at the time.

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 08:55 AM   #85
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The most evident difference between the good music era and bad music era is Darcy in and Darcy out.
Who knows she had a word.

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 09:41 AM   #86
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It's like some sort of mask. Makes no sense to keep doing this performative character.... also remarkable Glass and Shiny are both bald men in dresses. Only difference is Shiny wears facepaint and whatever fabric is lying around Chloe Mendel's workspace at the time.


funny because it's true

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 10:05 AM   #87
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also I take exception to "Fuckshit Clownmusic"

That was Teargarden by Kalidoscope (I know he put a Y in there somewhere but fuck off)

Althoguh technically we are on release 8 or 9 or so of the 33 disc epic albums within an album TBK
Wait.. we're still trapped in the Teargarden?!

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 10:35 AM   #88
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not trying to be a str8 up h8r of the new stuff, i give it all an honest chance, but lol @ the concept of a potential new fan hopping into "This is Smashing Pumpkins" & just getting fucking smacked w/ this in the middle of all the OG stuff


 
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Old 10-05-2022, 10:35 AM   #89
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What's gonna happen is, the 10 boxset songs are going to be old style, psychedelic / shoegaze, interesting guitar songs with good vocals. IOW what we know and love about SP.

BUT HE WON'T RELEASE THEM PROPERLY, FOR HE IS BILLY CORGAN.

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 01:40 PM   #90
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not trying to be a str8 up h8r of the new stuff, i give it all an honest chance, but lol @ the concept of a potential new fan hopping into "This is Smashing Pumpkins" & just getting fucking smacked w/ this in the middle of all the OG stuff

fuckin eh

Imagine being so beguiled by Beguiled you just move on to something else, missing out on Zero and Luna.

fckin n8mare

 
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