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Old 06-01-2023, 01:24 PM   #31
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they're trying to Do Insta and it comes off so wrong and slightly strange. it's a smashing pumpkins teashop

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:16 PM   #32
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f'Chrissake! Watching Yoko Corgan doing these unboxings is like watching a methead buttfucking the corpse that once was SP
Getting the same kind of vibes I get when a 35-year-old Funko-Pop owner says the new Inspector Gadget reboot "raped their childhood" or is "a cancerous abomination that should constitute a war crime" or something.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:45 PM   #33
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Bubblegum pink seems like a strange choice of color with the cover art.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 03:29 PM   #34
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Bubblegum pink seems like a strange choice of color with the cover art.
agreed. they already had an aesthetic (blues, blacks, gothic) for the filmed production but they abandoned it all for another "vintage" photo and a random "unique" "collector's" color

maybe he is cancelling the old art design b/c he fired strawberry?

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 04:29 PM   #35
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agreed. they already had an aesthetic (blues, blacks, gothic) for the filmed production but they abandoned it all for another "vintage" photo and a random "unique" "collector's" color

maybe he is cancelling the old art design b/c he fired strawberry?
Yea, especially for the price and the fact that these are archival releases represent a moment in the band's history, the artwork/design just feels so lazy and uninspired. Just expected a little more thought to be put into these to make them more unique than just a random image licensed and the same barebones template along with some random vinyl color that doesn't fit the aesthetic. These covers remind me of Billy's silly postcard collection.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the art of the Teargarden boxsets were actually more interesting than this.

Then again, after seeing the choices for Shiny, Cyr, and Atum cover art, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. If it hasn't already been done, we should create a thread for worse SP cover art.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 05:43 PM   #36
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Bubblegum pink is too good a color to hang with the likes of Billy Corgan.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 06:01 PM   #37
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There's no way these pics are licensed and they're paying to use them surely

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 06:40 PM   #38
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1. I'd bet money the photos are from the royalty-free archives.

2. Who cares about vinyl color?

3. Literally nobody wants this.

4. For the price they still can't spring for anti-static sleeves

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 06:49 PM   #39
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I feel like on one hand you have dum-dums like me saying "this is the worst thing anybody would ask for" and other dum-dums saying "why won't they release a 4 hour MCIS show on vinyl??"

so what's actually possible that could be released that would be good?

machina demos - can't do that
faeomm tape - can't do that
mcis demos - can't do that
adore demos - nope can't
double door - probably not anymore no

so we're just down to live shows that haven't been reissued and/or pre-gish material

so what good live shows that haven't been reissued in part and/or will fit on 1-2 records?

best of Arising?
Adore-era live alt versions?

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 06:50 PM   #40
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pastichio medley unreleased?

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:29 PM   #41
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All told, yeah - wouldn't be my top pick for a vinyl release by a mile. But I think I could see myself tossing this on from time to time. And since I already have the first four, I'm definitely in a might as well get them all at this point mentality.

Good share on the original video. Was surprised to see it not up any more, as it was there forever. Ripping it down as we speak for historical preservation purposes.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:05 PM   #42
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pastichio medley unreleased?
well basically anything from that era will be tied down to virgin records, even if as-yet unreleased.

they could start to explore some unreleased 2.0 material like zeitgeist era demos and other teargarden tracks. i would definitely shell out a bit for that kind of thing. but i feel like billy would want 'bigger plans' for that kind of stuff and not this type of series which is essentially official live bootlegs. so maybe even some soundboards of the broken clock society show / spirits in the sky shows, if they recorded any.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:18 PM   #43
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why won't they release a 4 hour MCIS show on vinyl?

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:31 PM   #44
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I’m not up to date on what part of the catalog he owns rights to. Does he even own rights to be able to do a MCIS era vinyl release? I kind of doubt it.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:14 PM   #45
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Maybe even a format for those of us who aren't 80 years old... yet.

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:58 PM   #46
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He can license literally whatever he wants from Virgin to release thru Zuzus.. this includes the machina reissue unless it’s still contractually obliged, which I doubt because virgin seems completely disinterested in it

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:59 PM   #47
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He put out the Gish Japan archive release… he simply would rather release some 2017 acoustic stuff over MCIS era goodies

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 11:47 PM   #48
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Yeah, he's forcing the idea of those now being "classic SP "

 
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Old 06-01-2023, 11:49 PM   #49
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Next up, Siddhartha vinyl in Purple Mountain's Majesty

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 12:37 AM   #50
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Old 06-02-2023, 04:07 AM   #51
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Yeah, he's forcing the idea of those now being "classic SP "
this.

2017 is a long time ago. "wish I was there, I only became a fan in 2020"
let the kids have the old fog in the conductor hat.

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 04:43 AM   #52
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I don't particularly enjoy her stage presence, either. But I feel like if I were doing the same video I'd probably sound just like that.
She's like a lethal combination of supreme self-entitlement, elitism and total lack of stage presence. I get it, waking up every morning next to Grampy Bill must be quite a challenge but c'mon, you know...

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 04:48 AM   #53
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Getting the same kind of vibes I get when a 35-year-old Funko-Pop owner says the new Inspector Gadget reboot "raped their childhood" or is "a cancerous abomination that should constitute a war crime" or something.
You mean you're ok with the new Inspector Gadget treatment?

Alright 'king' i've never liked you but now I'm telling you straight out: we CAN'T be friends!

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 06:49 AM   #54
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He can license literally whatever he wants from Virgin to release thru Zuzus.. this includes the machina reissue unless it’s still contractually obliged, which I doubt because virgin seems completely disinterested in it
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He put out the Gish Japan archive release… he simply would rather release some 2017 acoustic stuff over MCIS era goodies
The label owns the rights to the recorded versions that make up the original albums, the masters or whatever they're called, he owns the rights to the songs.

Live shows, newly recorded versions and whatnot, it's all his and that's why he's doing the archive releases but the Masheena reissue is still missing.

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 06:50 AM   #55
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An LP of all the Teargarden tracks wouldn't be the worst thing... if it was in a nice package with decent artwork. I'd probably play that more than I would, say, a vinyl of Zeitgeist.

But yeah, all this stuff should be on Bandcamp. They'd make so much money, especially on Bandcamp Friday. Didn't Thom Yorke make like $20 million when he released Tomorrow's Modern Boxes? Not that SP would sell that many, but I'd certainly rather this as a download than fork out for a record.

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 08:08 AM   #56
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The label owns the rights to the recorded versions that make up the original albums, the masters or whatever they're called, he owns the rights to the songs.

Live shows, newly recorded versions and whatnot, it's all his and that's why he's doing the archive releases but the Masheena reissue is still missing.
Yeah, I’m saying he is probably able to license anything that the label DOES own for issue on Madam Zuzus as long as they approve of it, which is what I think the suits have been trying to get him to do for machina but he wants a big release for it with Virgin PR and whatnot. I don’t think it’s gonna happen for him

 
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this all sucks so much

aren't you a big cool non conformist rockstar? put it on the internet like m2 and stop wasting our time

 
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suggested donation $333 per download

 
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Old 06-02-2023, 11:01 AM   #59
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i'll give him $6.66

 
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I'll give him zero with a star

 
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