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Old 11-02-2013, 12:46 AM   #1
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Question Do you think the band is dead?

The three new albums have all been bombs especially the last two. I saw them in 2007 that was a legitimately great show. I have no interest at all in seeing them now. I remember a few years ago my friend won free tickets to as show in Philly and I turned them down to go to another concert that I had to pay for. This band has lost so much steam and turns out such shit now that I wouldn't even go and see them live for free. I can honestly say that because I did that.

I don't think Corgan brings them back from this. I think the brand name is officially done until the proper cash grab reunion tour eventually happens in 3-5 years. Hopefully he'll wisen up and do a simple solo acoustic album. But this band was officially done and over with when Jimmy left. There was some promise in their initial reunion but then it all went to shit and that's what makes it all the more disappointing.

 
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:08 AM   #2
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Alright take care, man

 
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:37 AM   #3
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I don't think Corgan brings them back from this. I think the brand name is officially done until the proper cash grab reunion tour eventually happens in 3-5 years. Hopefully he'll wisen up and do a simple solo acoustic album. But this band was officially done and over with when Jimmy left. There was some promise in their initial reunion but then it all went to shit and that's what makes it all the more disappointing.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:46 AM   #4
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Yeah I had some hope in the few 2 years. If all goes wrong songs and some songs from spirits in the sky and backward clock society made some sense... Even with zhitgeist in the middle it could be forgetable and I could see some bright future in smashimg pumpkins. But after billy get back to studio in teargarden they got drown and drown everyday, and jimmy spotted that shit and just left. Billy did not want to see that and keep it until now where the only exit to SP is death... at least I hope so.

 
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:51 AM   #5
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Billy corgan would kurt kablam himself if he really wanted to end the band

 
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:11 AM   #6
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:54 AM   #7
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I don't think Billy has enough grace to go out even this easily unfortunately.



Also Smashing Pumpkins cannot end without at least one more performance with Billy and Jimmy together. Cannot.

 
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:30 AM   #8
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How big are the chances of him doing a short acoustic tour in the next few years? Considering his voice is letting him down more and more.

 
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:11 AM   #9
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How big are the chances of him doing a short acoustic tour in the next few years? Considering his voice is letting him down more and more.
What do you mean?

It seems like he's intentionally singing like a jackass.

 
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:26 AM   #10
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It seems like he's intentionally singing like a jackass.
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:10 PM   #11
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I'm sure you must have noticed his voice getting weaker in performances of for example 'Tonight Tonight'. He's shaking on the first two-three words. Did not do that on the Zeitgeist tour.
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:04 PM   #12
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the band is dead get rid of the band

 
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:54 AM   #13
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it seems weird that the band just...stopped all of a sudden. I mean I didn't give a squirt about the Oceania tour either but it was like once it was over see ya bye

 
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:40 AM   #14
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that's because billy will call them if and when he needs them again

 
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:03 AM   #15
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that's because billy will call them if and when he needs them again
Yes, Billy will call them just a couple of days before Bearcubbin wants to go on tour.

 
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:25 AM   #16
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But after billy get back to studio in teargarden they got drown and drown everyday
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:20 PM   #17
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that's because billy will call them if and when he needs them again


he's gonna light the byrne-signal



















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Old 11-05-2013, 12:02 AM   #18
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Banana- I gotta agree with you man. There was an excitement in the air, and energy when the band was on tour in 2007. I actually think Zetigeist was a pretty damn good comeback album in a lot of senses. No one knew what the fuck to expect to hear when they heard that the Pumpkins were coming back. Then they just come out and kick ya in the teeth with Tarantula. Tarantula was a pretty bad ass way to re-introduce people to the band. And it was totally them. It wasn't contrived or trying desperately to fit in with the times...(*cough*Oceania*cough*) Zeitgeist while not as good as the lead single had a lot of really solid moments. It was a good come back in my mind and had me re-energized as a fan.

Then with the excitement of the band being back- Ya got to see em on tour! and the 2007 tour was fucking sweet. Like I said- There was energy from the band and excitement in the air.

They should have kept on rolling along but then Billy started being a fool and writing crappy songs on the spot- the day of the show and started performing crappy 30 minute covers... Then once Jimmy had enough of Billys bullshit and strolled off into the sunset it was just Corgan and the whole thing was fucking finished right then and there... Billy could have attempted to salvage some of that energy and hire a top-notch drummer but he decided to firmly hammer the nails into the coffin by hiring Byrne... And here we are 4 years later, entirely uninterested with anything to do with the current band... What a shame.

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Old 11-05-2013, 12:14 AM   #19
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think about it... Jimmy leaves... Billy stubbornly keeps chugging along- And now we have Astral Planes and Widow wake my mind... gahhhhhhhh

 
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Banana- I gotta agree with you man.
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Old 11-05-2013, 12:27 AM   #21
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I thought I read something about Jeff saying that they're going back to the studio early next year?

 
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:32 AM   #22
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It wasn't contrived or trying desperately to fit in with the times...(*cough*Oceania*cough*)
i thought tarantula was very contrived and trying to fit in with the nu metal scene that was over three to four years before zeitgeist came out

i don't know what your'e on about trying to fit in with the times like Oceania.

oceania doesn't fit in anywhere, it's just a flaccid attempt to recapture past glory by giving just enough of what you think people want and wash it out with some good old fashioned mediocrity

 
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:13 PM   #23
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I wholeheartedly agree with fuzzyroses about "Tarantula." You could not have done better with that as a lead single. You can even read threads about it here and see that the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. There was a hope that Corgan just might be able to pull it off. Unfortunately, none of the other songs on Zeitgeist got anywhere close.

That being said, even after Zeitgeist came out and no one cared, the tour was exciting in 2007. Different set lists every night, the band that year was on fire. The majority of the 2011-2013 touring was wondering what old songs the new ones would play and if they would rank from "adequate/tolerable" to astonishingly bad.

 
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Actually, when a small clip of the song first leaked, the reaction to Tarantula was overwhelmingly negative. After people listened to the whole song, they were more positive about it, but I have to say "overwhelmingly positive" is an overstatement.

 
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a major overstatement

 
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:46 AM   #26
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tarantula was nu-metal?

 
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:47 AM   #27
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i think the consensus with zietgeist in 07 was like "that's cool ... i guess"

nobody was really saying it was terrible (except for people whose default position is everything's terrible). it just didn't really warrant a "reunion"

the whole thing just seemed all over the place. its supposed to be an album about political angst or whatever but only about two or three songs really reflected that. billy's "themes" are usually ambiguous and loose ended but with zietgeist it was like "here's a bunch of songs to put on shuffle"

 
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I thought the consensus was that the drumming on Tarantula was excellent but everything else was mediocre or just horrible.

 
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:48 AM   #29
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Re read the old threads about it. There were people comparing it to "Geek USA." I'll be the first to admit that this very well could have just been excitement about having a new Smashing Pumpkins song out getting to people, but it was positive.

 
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:52 AM   #30
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They are in their prime.

 
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