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Old 07-20-2023, 03:49 AM   #91
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started strong, then you shat yourself.

 
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Old 07-20-2023, 03:49 AM   #92
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holy fucking shit, i've made like 3 threads about cafe de la danse and didn't know there was an FM copy!!
I hadn't heard this either! Sounds lush!

 
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:50 AM   #93
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Nah, MSOTS is actually good. And better than Machina.
Good lord I'd love to see your face when you realize you actually thought about and posted this

 
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Old 07-20-2023, 08:43 PM   #94
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I don't think MSTOS is bad. I enjoy it.

I do think his decision to blot out all of the beautiful guitars by Pajo and Sweeney was a huge indication of him losing his fucking mind and allowing his hubris to hurt the music in a major way that would repeat itself over and over again for years to come! lol.

Also...this is unrelated...but as far as MACHINA, I think it's my favorite SP/Billy album. Objectively, SD or MCIS are his strongest works. But I find the artistic boldness of MACHINA to be on par with anything a major rock artist has ever done.

The courageous way he basically lays bare his personality disorder traits* through the music (and the very obtuse presentation, which serves as a vehicle for the listener to actually experience the psychic chaos of someone who is severely personality disordered both mentally and emotionally) is a massive triumph.

It's brilliant.

*I can't diagnose Billy obviously. I'm using "personality disorder traits" as a proxy for whatever his personal/psychological issues are although I do clearly have some educated (and compassionate) thoughts about where he might be land in terms of a diagnosis.

 
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Old 07-21-2023, 04:11 AM   #95
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Machina was a missed opportunity.

MSOTS was a missed opportunity.

Zeitgiest was a missed opportunity.

Shiny 1 was a missed opportunity.

etc.

 
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Old 07-21-2023, 08:30 AM   #96
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yeah a missed opportunity for YOU to write a better album
yeah? AMIRITE?

Everyone's a critic. I've been doing this for nearly 40 years. I'm down with the kids.

Shiny and oh so sTFU

 
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