Was the recent Pajo podcast appearance discussed? - Page 4

Machinist · 07-20-2023, 03:49 AM

started strong, then you shat yourself.

jimmy drevpile · 07-20-2023, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

holy fucking shit, i've made like 3 threads about cafe de la danse and didn't know there was an FM copy!!

I hadn't heard this either! Sounds lush!

Joey Goldberg · 07-20-2023, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

Nah, MSOTS is actually good. And better than Machina.

Good lord I'd love to see your face when you realize you actually thought about and posted this

johncg · 07-20-2023, 08:43 PM

I don't think MSTOS is bad. I enjoy it.

I do think his decision to blot out all of the beautiful guitars by Pajo and Sweeney was a huge indication of him losing his fucking mind and allowing his hubris to hurt the music in a major way that would repeat itself over and over again for years to come! lol.

Also...this is unrelated...but as far as MACHINA, I think it's my favorite SP/Billy album. Objectively, SD or MCIS are his strongest works. But I find the artistic boldness of MACHINA to be on par with anything a major rock artist has ever done.

The courageous way he basically lays bare his personality disorder traits* through the music (and the very obtuse presentation, which serves as a vehicle for the listener to actually experience the psychic chaos of someone who is severely personality disordered both mentally and emotionally) is a massive triumph.

It's brilliant.

*I can't diagnose Billy obviously. I'm using "personality disorder traits" as a proxy for whatever his personal/psychological issues are although I do clearly have some educated (and compassionate) thoughts about where he might be land in terms of a diagnosis.

eviltimeban · 07-21-2023, 04:11 AM

Machina was a missed opportunity.

MSOTS was a missed opportunity.

Zeitgiest was a missed opportunity.

Shiny 1 was a missed opportunity.

etc.

Machinist · 07-21-2023, 08:30 AM

yeah a missed opportunity for YOU to write a better album
yeah? AMIRITE?

Everyone's a critic. I've been doing this for nearly 40 years. I'm down with the kids.

Shiny and oh so sTFU

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07-20-2023, 03:49 AM	#91
Machinist Demi-God Posts: 498	started strong, then you shat yourself.

07-20-2023, 08:43 PM	#94
johncg Apocalyptic Poster Location: I teared Joe Rogan a new one Posts: 1,427	I don't think MSTOS is bad. I enjoy it. I do think his decision to blot out all of the beautiful guitars by Pajo and Sweeney was a huge indication of him losing his fucking mind and allowing his hubris to hurt the music in a major way that would repeat itself over and over again for years to come! lol. Also...this is unrelated...but as far as MACHINA, I think it's my favorite SP/Billy album. Objectively, SD or MCIS are his strongest works. But I find the artistic boldness of MACHINA to be on par with anything a major rock artist has ever done. The courageous way he basically lays bare his personality disorder traits* through the music (and the very obtuse presentation, which serves as a vehicle for the listener to actually experience the psychic chaos of someone who is severely personality disordered both mentally and emotionally) is a massive triumph. It's brilliant. *I can't diagnose Billy obviously. I'm using "personality disorder traits" as a proxy for whatever his personal/psychological issues are although I do clearly have some educated (and compassionate) thoughts about where he might be land in terms of a diagnosis.

07-21-2023, 04:11 AM	#95
eviltimeban Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,949	Machina was a missed opportunity. MSOTS was a missed opportunity. Zeitgiest was a missed opportunity. Shiny 1 was a missed opportunity. etc.

07-21-2023, 08:30 AM	#96
Machinist Demi-God Posts: 498	yeah a missed opportunity for YOU to write a better album yeah? AMIRITE? Everyone's a critic. I've been doing this for nearly 40 years. I'm down with the kids. Shiny and oh so sTFU