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Old 12-06-2022, 02:22 PM   #61
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yeah i don't want to quote directly but just listen to it.

my biggest disappointment here is that they cut out the extended solo ending.. that just put a cherry on the sundae. And I knew that was going to be cut from this as soon as I heard Billy say "but Ruby gets cut off by the government before she can finish her scathing broadcast"

i still like it.

I'm going to reserve opinions about the mix until it's available in lossless.
Billy has such a victim complex. I get it, but it's definitely showing with this whole "the government and society hates anyone who bucks the norms, they suppress genius out of fear."

Being a perceived victim of something also leads to the type of hate speech going around recently (not truthism or irony, The Alter) so it's not surprising and probably coming from the same place. Yuck.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:26 PM   #62
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i turned the vocals down / messed with it a bit -->

https://vocaroo.com/16NLFcOTUMqQ

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:29 PM   #63
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Could have been a decent if dumb rocker but the production renders it completely thin and toothless. There's no grit or backbone to the guitar at all. It just sounds weak.

And this is as good as it's gonna get with Billy producing. Such a shame.

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Old 12-06-2022, 02:35 PM   #64
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I love a good hard rock song where the guitars are way off in the background.

P.S. This song sucks.

Remember when Billy was all about taking the time to work on guitar tone and creatively layering multiple guitars to create a new massive guitar sound? Yeah, those days are dead.

The best part was when Jeff said they wanted to do something new and fresh. There is nothing new or fresh about Atum.

I love how Billy is trying to trick outsiders into thinking this is a rock album by making Beguiled and Empires singles. Boy, will they be surprised when they discover the album is mostly synths. This is not a rock opera. It is a synth opera with a few generic copy and paste rock songs sprinked throughout.

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Old 12-06-2022, 02:47 PM   #65
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too much synth, not enough guitar and drums, guitar and drums and it still sucks.

maybe at this point stop listening?

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:47 PM   #66
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The best part was when Jeff said they wanted to do something new and fresh.
and then he says he ran out of ideas pretty quickly.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:52 PM   #67
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to be fair that was only ever played live, and who knows if ever recorded.
an artist should be allowed to use their ideas more than once.
especially with how insanely prolific billy is. it's bound to happen.
I would guess that the majority SP fans, realistically, don't know As Rome Burns even exists

It was recorded and can be seen on the TBK white board from the studio picture

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:55 PM   #68
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Also this is leagues above wytchh. that song is complete corn.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:58 PM   #69
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as far as all the elon musk talk, he seems to be against the suppression of misinformation, in the name of free speech. he seems to praise elon musk but he's very vague about it. almost feels like he's likening the shiny character to an elon musk type figure.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:04 PM   #70
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If I think of each of these songs as part of a movie soundtrack with the lyrics only used to compliment the plot, I hate it less. But the subject matter always sucks, even if the guitar is okay.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:04 PM   #71
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EMPAHS EMPAHS

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:05 PM   #72
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too much synth, not enough guitar and drums, guitar and drums and it still sucks.

maybe at this point stop listening?
It's not about too much synth or not enough guitar and drums, it's about actual good music. Empires is bland as f--k. The most unimaginative, unoriginal rock Billy has come up with. When Billy makes synth or rock music now, it all sounds cheap and sterile.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:10 PM   #73
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Jeff saved the band.
we have Jeff to thank for SP2.
without Jeff we wouldn't have all this wonderful music

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:29 PM   #74
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It's not about too much synth or not enough guitar and drums, it's about actual good music. Empires is bland as f--k. The most unimaginative, unoriginal rock Billy has come up with. When Billy makes synth or rock music now, it all sounds cheap and sterile.
to my second point, why continue listening?

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:31 PM   #75
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to my second point, why continue listening?
Because this is Netphoria, the Wow, Look How Far Billy Has Fallen appreciation thread.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:34 PM   #76
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Because this is Netphoria, the Wow, Look How Far Billy Has Fallen appreciation thread.
you really want to endure another 20 some odds weeks of that?

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:53 PM   #77
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Funny how Billy hints on that Paz interview

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 03:54 PM   #78
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Please tell me this atum isnt true...
Empires is so uninspired....fuck it....suck it....reddit praising it asthe new return to form.
Fuck em all

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:00 PM   #79
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Please tell me this atum isnt true...
Empires is so uninspired....fuck it....suck it....reddit praising it asthe new return to form.
Fuck em all
yo dude where's the thread where the guy heard 8 unreleased songs eh?

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:02 PM   #80
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Please tell me this atum isnt true...
Empires is so uninspired....fuck it....suck it....reddit praising it asthe new return to form.
Fuck em all
Are u still allowed in the reddit or did u get whacked

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:22 PM   #81
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fuck it... suck it... whack it...


 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:01 PM   #82
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fuck it... suck it... whack it...

I don't want to play this game anymore

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:07 PM   #83
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Funny how Billy hints on that Paz interview
Well its not like hes the name on the crowds tongue these days. Getting that kind of rep on Rolling Stone is a big deal for him.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:21 PM   #84
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It was ok. The mix is bad, I have no clue what Katie is doing here. Guitars sound paper thin. I do like the riff and how it's structured generally

There's like 0 urgency to any of these songs tho. I thought Empires would've kicked things up a notch, but nothing.

I'd be lucky if I can manage a decent EP out of all 3 albums

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:40 PM   #85
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I legit think this is what Billy thinks Empires sounds like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dm_5qWWDV8

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:44 PM   #86
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Thumbs up if you think ram and I could do better ��

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:49 PM   #87
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This song has always reminded me of this:

https://youtu.be/S0POFnH096U

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:49 PM   #88
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Yeah I thought this sounded like a weak Muse copy since I first heard it live.

 
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:52 PM   #89
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Reminds me of this.


 
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Old 12-06-2022, 06:56 PM   #90
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It's so generic it reminds me of about 10 different bands.

None of which are The Smashing Pumpkins.

 
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