How are you feeling about Zeitgeist now?

ibelievenothing · 05:48 AM

Now that you have had a few days to digest it.........

There is lots of negativity and lots of contrasting positivity and I wanted to know what the overall feeling was on the album now and how people are taking the album after a few days of listening.

I know there has already been a poll rating it but that was on the same day it was leaked.

ARE YOU FEELING THE ZEITGEIST?

EDIT: AS PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT "DISAPPOINTED" DEPENDS ON EXPECTATIONS SO PLEASE INTERPRET THAT TO MEAN "POOR" ASWELL.

Thanks.

Trotskilicious · 07-05-2007, 04:57 AM

is there something inbetween disappointed (which I'm not really since it was kind of expected) and total disaster? I'm thinking "pretty shitty."

Trotskilicious · 07-05-2007, 04:57 AM

this poll is worthless without being public

ibelievenothing · 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

is there something inbetween disappointed (which I'm not really since it was kind of expected) and total disaster? I'm thinking "pretty shitty."

Stop being pedantic. Your answer should be dissapointed then.

For clarification - for the purpose of this poll dissapointed means if you think it is a poor album but not a total disaster, regardless of what you were expecting.

I wrote this poll because there seems to be a lot of criticism of the album.

Personally I love it, and I wanted to see if the haters were just a minority or just a few trolls or if in fact the album is being perceived badly by the majority.

waltermcphilp · 07-05-2007, 05:18 AM

You Said · 07-05-2007, 05:22 AM

thurston · 07-05-2007, 05:23 AM

yeah it was really hard to not be biased when listening to it at first, given billys late failures and all...

i hated it at first, but its growing on me...

caliphornia · 07-05-2007, 05:26 AM

disappointed.

thurston · 07-05-2007, 05:35 AM

can you really consider it dissappointment when clearly we knew beforehand it wasn't going to be the revolutionary pumpkins we grew to love? (and evidently hate here on netphoria)...

you can't be dissappointed when you expect nothing...

Ever · 07-05-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

this poll is worthless without being public

In many ways, especially when considering statistical metadata, I would agree, but it's not entirely worthless.

ibelievenothing · 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thurston

can you really consider it dissappointment when clearly we knew beforehand it wasn't going to be the revolutionary pumpkins we grew to love? (and evidently hate here on netphoria)...

you can't be dissappointed when you expect nothing...

Changed the question to account for this.

mccririck · 07-05-2007, 08:06 AM

I voted disaster. Really I think it's in between disappointed and disaster though.

mccririck · 07-05-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thurston

can you really consider it dissappointment when clearly we knew beforehand it wasn't going to be the revolutionary pumpkins we grew to love?

Yes you can. You could have been hoping for something good and got a turd.

trev · 07-05-2007, 08:38 AM

yeah, if i think about this album as a billy corgan solo album, i think it's good. but to give it the smashing pumpkins name feels both wrong and like a drop in standards.

music is good, production is pretty average at best.

compared to the real pumpkins, it's nothing.

edit - to sum up, it's what TFE could've / should've been.

Effloresce · 07-05-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

this poll is worthless without being public

SpFission · 07-05-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibelievenothing

Personally I love it, and I wanted to see if the haters were just a minority or just a few trolls or if in fact the album is being perceived badly by the majority.

It's the extreme minority on this board. They just post more.

TAFH · 07-05-2007, 09:54 AM

is there an option worse than disaster ? How about "selling your soul, and your country, a political ideal, and the name of the band that made you famous, for money" option...

mccririck · 07-05-2007, 10:01 AM

Less than half are loving it.

Cool As Ice Cream · 07-05-2007, 10:07 AM

I hope they release a new album soon.

omegadown3 · 07-05-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mccririck

Less than half are loving it.

75% are generally pleased with it or better.

mccririck · 07-05-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by omegadown3

75% are generally pleased with it or better.

That leaves a whole quarter who arent. That's quite a lot of people.

smashingpumpkin · 07-05-2007, 10:18 AM

this thing is growing on me. I woke up this morning with "you may qwwooonee you want of me" (neverlost?? was one of my least faves i guess not anymore)

avian chaos · 07-05-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

is there something inbetween disappointed (which I'm not really since it was kind of expected) and total disaster? I'm thinking "pretty shitty."

Yeah that's what I was aiming for, too.

ibelievenothing · 07-05-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mccririck

That leaves a whole quarter who arent. That's quite a lot of people.

Yes but 15% of that 25% have relcutantly admitted it is ok.

That's only 10% that basically hate it.

mccririck · 07-05-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by smashingpumpkin

this thing is growing on me. I woke up this morning with "you may qwwooonee you want of me" (neverlost?? was one of my least faves i guess not anymore)

You mean it was playing in your head? that means nothing, are you saying you've never listened to the radio and got some really shit song they play constantly in your head?

mccririck · 07-05-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ibelievenothing

Yes but 15% of that 25% have relcutantly admitted it is ok.

That's only 10% that basically hate it.

ok isnt very good is it. Oh the new Pumpkins album is ok. ok???? A Pumpkins album??? Fuck that.

TAFH · 07-05-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by smashingpumpkin

this thing is growing on me. I woke up this morning with "you may qwwooonee you want of me" (neverlost?? was one of my least faves i guess not anymore)

that's so cute... I love the way you freaks force yourselves to like this stuff... it's just so adorable... Billy really owes his ass to y'all for being so retarded

runnersdialzero · 07-05-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

this poll is worthless without being public

you're worthless period

ibelievenothing · 10:37 AM

4 have rated it as their favourite album!

The only problem with Zeitgeist for me (and I voted that I loved it) is that there are no 10/10 songs.

I gave Muzzle, Disarm, Mayonaise, Here is no Why, Tonight Tonight, Zero, Galapogos and some others 10/10.

Here there are four 9/10 songs and about four or five 8/10 songs but so far for me no 10/10 songs.

Don't get me wrong, I still love it and that is still good enough for me.

TAFH · 07-05-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ibelievenothing

4 have rated it as their favourite album!!!!!

The only problem with Zeitgeist for me (and I voted that I loved it) is that there are no 10/10 songs.

I gave Muzzle, Disarm, Mayonaise, Here is no Why, Tonight Tonight, Zero, Galapogos and some others 10/10.

Here there are four 9/10 songs and about four or five 8/10 songs but so far for me no 10/10 songs.

Don't get me wrong, I still love it and that is still good enough for me.

that's so touching

View Poll Results: How are you taking Zeitgeist?
Favourite Pumpkins album	4	1.67%
Loving it - Great album	105	43.93%
Generally pleased.	70	29.29%
It's ok I suppose.	34	14.23%
Dissapointed.	17	7.11%
It's a total disaster.	9	3.77%
Voters: 239. You may not vote on this poll

07-05-2007, 04:44 AM	#1
ibelievenothing Pledge Posts: 182	How are you feeling about Zeitgeist now? Now that you have had a few days to digest it......... There is lots of negativity and lots of contrasting positivity and I wanted to know what the overall feeling was on the album now and how people are taking the album after a few days of listening. I know there has already been a poll rating it but that was on the same day it was leaked. ARE YOU FEELING THE ZEITGEIST? EDIT: AS PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT "DISAPPOINTED" DEPENDS ON EXPECTATIONS SO PLEASE INTERPRET THAT TO MEAN "POOR" ASWELL. Thanks. Last edited by ibelievenothing : 07-05-2007 at 05:48 AM.

07-05-2007, 10:27 AM	#29
ibelievenothing Pledge Posts: 182	4 have rated it as their favourite album! The only problem with Zeitgeist for me (and I voted that I loved it) is that there are no 10/10 songs. I gave Muzzle, Disarm, Mayonaise, Here is no Why, Tonight Tonight, Zero, Galapogos and some others 10/10. Here there are four 9/10 songs and about four or five 8/10 songs but so far for me no 10/10 songs. Don't get me wrong, I still love it and that is still good enough for me. Last edited by ibelievenothing : 07-05-2007 at 10:37 AM.

07-05-2007, 04:57 AM	#2
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	is there something inbetween disappointed (which I'm not really since it was kind of expected) and total disaster? I'm thinking "pretty shitty."

07-05-2007, 05:18 AM	#5
waltermcphilp Socialphobic Location: I DO C-C-C-COCAINE Posts: 11,137

07-05-2007, 05:22 AM	#6
You Said Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,678

07-05-2007, 05:23 AM	#7
thurston Demi-God Posts: 499	yeah it was really hard to not be biased when listening to it at first, given billys late failures and all... i hated it at first, but its growing on me...

07-05-2007, 05:26 AM	#8
caliphornia Ownz Posts: 577	disappointed.

07-05-2007, 05:35 AM	#9
thurston Demi-God Posts: 499	can you really consider it dissappointment when clearly we knew beforehand it wasn't going to be the revolutionary pumpkins we grew to love? (and evidently hate here on netphoria)... you can't be dissappointed when you expect nothing...

07-05-2007, 08:06 AM	#12
mccririck Apocalyptic Poster Location: Spa Posts: 3,884	I voted disaster. Really I think it's in between disappointed and disaster though.

07-05-2007, 08:38 AM	#14
trev charm Location: Naarm, Wurundjeri, Woiwurrung, Kulin Nations Posts: 2,223	yeah, if i think about this album as a billy corgan solo album, i think it's good. but to give it the smashing pumpkins name feels both wrong and like a drop in standards. music is good, production is pretty average at best. compared to the real pumpkins, it's nothing. edit - to sum up, it's what TFE could've / should've been.

07-05-2007, 09:54 AM	#17
TAFH Demi-God Posts: 291	is there an option worse than disaster ? How about "selling your soul, and your country, a political ideal, and the name of the band that made you famous, for money" option...

07-05-2007, 10:01 AM	#18
mccririck Apocalyptic Poster Location: Spa Posts: 3,884	Less than half are loving it.

07-05-2007, 10:07 AM	#19
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	I hope they release a new album soon.

07-05-2007, 10:18 AM	#22
smashingpumpkin Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,016	this thing is growing on me. I woke up this morning with "you may qwwooonee you want of me" (neverlost?? was one of my least faves i guess not anymore)