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Old 01-17-2019, 05:28 AM   #91
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So I didn’t realise that Celebrity Skin actually sold better than Adore. Courtney and Billy should have formed a supergroup omg

That could still be worth watching, two ancient divas fighting for the spotlight,pushing each other out of the way, fishnets and sparkling capes all flashing in a beautiful spectacle of ego and spite

Worth the price of admission
you mention flashing...

belly flashing his moobs.

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:24 PM   #92
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Yeah, it's really not a very enjoyable listen. I just take the few songs that I like from it and dispose of the rest. If you look at my Ipod I have: Ava Adore, Shame, For Martha and Behold the Night Mare. The rest, eh... It's okay sometimes. I don't see what all of the fuss is about though.
same for me on those songs. and that is it.

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:26 PM   #93
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anyone who doesn't appreciate TO SHEILA as one of the best pumpkinses tracks ever can GET FUCKED.

yeah that's right i called ya'll out. deal with it!

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:03 PM   #94
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:35 PM   #95
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it's a great song, sure, but i've never understood why people think it's one of their best ever

is it the banjos?

it's the banjos isn't it




♪♩ and thaaaat's my 6667 pooooost! ♩♪

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:36 PM   #96
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wow.

just, wow.

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:40 PM   #97
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it's one of bill's best solo songs, for sure

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Old 01-17-2019, 02:50 PM   #98
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To Sheila is the best acoustic SP song hands down (even though the recording is not really all acoustic). The only question is does it break the top five ever, or just the top ten?

Also what do we think about the banjos? Bill does not play banjo, so I'm thinking it's either some sort of resonator guitar or it's a guitjo type deal with a banjo head and a six string guitar setup

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:53 PM   #99
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I will say the banjos part with "lately I just can't seem to believe" is probably the most moving section of any song Bill has ever written to me. I don't even know how to describe the bittersweet ecstasy as those two banjo things ascend right after "change the scenery"

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:57 PM   #100
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yeah little high slideup thing was always one of my favorite parts

possibly on the whole album

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:59 PM   #101
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but so is the "senescence" of everytime Pug's sinister verses go into that sweet, sweet chorus

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:55 PM   #102
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comparing to sheila to pug?

wow.

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:56 PM   #103
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Post-6,666-post Mals Marola is something else, I tell you what.

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:57 PM   #104
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no?

i was merely listing my favorite moments on A DOER

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:35 PM   #105
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I think it was partly my age and gender, I was an 18 year old female when those albums came out, and Courtney was this jaded older sister figure who’d been there and done that and fucked all the hot rock stars and played to stadiums and been widowed by a visionary genius drug addict and then blamed for his death, even accused of murder....at that point, in 1998, to me...she just had a more interesting story to tell, than Billy did. I liked her lyrics more than his, and I liked the hooks he wrote for her, and paired them with. I still like Celebrity Skin, though I didn’t like the production on that, either.
Live Through This >>>>> Celebrity Skin

Kurt>>>>> B0lly

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:41 PM   #106
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anyone who doesn't appreciate TO SHEILA as one of the best pumpkinses tracks ever can GET FUCKED.

yeah that's right i called ya'll out. deal with it!
This might be one of the most overrated songs in the canon.

I mean sure, it's a pretty good song for what it is. It's nice and folksy and everything, but it's really nothing all that special. It's simply alright.

 
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:44 PM   #107
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To Sheila is the best acoustic SP song hands down
Wrong... So so wrong.

Disarm, 33, Farewell and Goodnight are a few that come to mind that are much better.

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:16 AM   #108
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absolutely not.

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:29 AM   #109
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Disarm & 33 are at least on par w/ Two Sheilas

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:38 AM   #110
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Almost every early B-side is leagues above To Sheila

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:43 AM   #111
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what the fuck, no.

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:43 AM   #112
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NO HATERZ

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:43 AM   #113
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:49 AM   #114
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Whir > To Sheila

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:50 AM   #115
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no.

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 05:09 AM   #116
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You're right Adore hasn't aged poorly.

It was always poor.

#thuglyf

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:14 AM   #117
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omg so much to sheila hatred

i mean i love most of those songs you guys mentioned (33, whir, sweet bsides like medellia), but to sheila is either top five or top ten for me. definitely the best song on adore, even better than that magnificent outro (Shame, Nitemare, For Martha, Blank Page).

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:17 AM   #118
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fuck. to sheila is a great song but idk if its the best one top 5 though

 
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:24 AM   #119
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i don't hate sheila at all, but when i first got Adore, i was going into it as the pumpkins' electronic album. the songs that were more acoustic weren't quite as of interest to me at the time, & even tho i've grown to appreciate them greatly since, it's still not all that different

 
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Whir > To Sheila
I hate to agree with house of ass but

 
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