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10-25-2021, 06:24 PM | #31 |
BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
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Holy shit. What a stupid reason for someone to die.
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10-26-2021, 08:24 AM | #32 |
Ownz
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now that it is not appearing like alec baldwin is a crazed murderer i have lost interest in this story
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10-26-2021, 09:19 AM | #33 |
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Yeah i thought i actually liked him for a minute there
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10-26-2021, 09:20 AM | #34 |
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10-26-2021, 09:47 AM | #35 |
Shut the fuck up!
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All the good trolls are gone. 40 on the curb for CW
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10-26-2021, 10:21 AM | #36 |
Minion of Satan
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i don't think being blatantly autistic automatically qualifies you as a troll
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10-26-2021, 10:21 AM | #37 |
Minion of Satan
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then again, why not?
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10-26-2021, 12:40 PM | #38 |
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10-28-2021, 07:18 PM | #39 |
Ownz
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fuck this shit baldwin should take a manslaughter charge if not negligent homicide. i don't care if jesus christ himself told him the gun was unloaded, you don't a) not check yourself, b) point it at someone, and c) pull the trigger. three fundamental gun safety violations in a row.
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10-28-2021, 08:40 PM | #40 |
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i wouldn't be surprised if he does get involuntary manslaughter if he did all of those things. but supposedly "Baldwin was sat in a church pew demonstrating a “cross draw”, pulling a gun from a holster on the opposite side of his body." (https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...80230a3518d5cd)
If he pulled the trigger accidentally as he was drawing it that's a bit different than if he pointed it at someone and shot. Is that what really happened? idk. Did he know there was live ammunition on the set at all? Obviously he still has some blame for not checking it no matter what |
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10-29-2021, 09:52 AM | #41 |
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I would just note that the guy who shot Brandon Lee on the Crow set was not charged with anything — every case is going to be a little different I'm sure, and it probably matters a lot that Baldwin was also a producer, just saying it's not a foregone conclusion
Found these screenshots on Twitter, don't know the article URLs, but they offer additional details on what a fuckhead the armorer is These screenshots look like they're from Reddit, from a union actor, explaining who is responsible for what on a set when it comes to gun safety. It sounds like basically no one did the right thing, victims included, but they put most of the blame on the armorer and the AD |
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10-29-2021, 04:19 PM | #42 |
Minion of Satan
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*Places arms akimbo"
Somebody's got some esplaineen to do! |
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10-29-2021, 07:15 PM | #43 |
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11-08-2021, 07:23 PM | #44 |
Ownz
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well donald has weighed in on the matter and you know i feel similarly
"But if nothing else, how do you take a gun and just, whether it's loaded or not loaded, how do you take a gun, point it at somebody that's not even in the movie and just point it at this person and pull the trigger and now she's dead?" he added. |
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11-08-2021, 07:47 PM | #45 |
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finally, someone was brave enough to say it
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11-08-2021, 08:12 PM | #46 | |
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Quote:
(not in any way a defense of him btw) |
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11-08-2021, 09:03 PM | #47 | |
Shut the fuck up!
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Quote:
he was handed a "cold gun" and had no reason to believe otherwise |
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11-09-2021, 02:07 AM | #48 |
Minion of Satan
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Didn't this production also just cop a horrific spider bite that might lead to limb amputation?
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11-09-2021, 01:05 PM | #49 |
Janis Jopleybird
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The armorer and her expensive lawyers have been putting out the claim that some saboteur put a live round in the box of blank cartridges
Included in this claim is the idea that, like, why would crew members walk off a set in a protest over safety unless they were trying to cause an accident. One lawyer said on Good Morning America, "Why would you do that [walk off in protest] other than to try to cause some incident on the set? Now, we’re not saying anybody had any intent there was going to be a tragedy — a homicide — but they wanted to do something to cause a safety incident on set. That’s what we believe happened.” Baldwin, who seems to think his portrayal of Trump on SNL had a big impact on the election, wants to hire cops to monitor set safety Oh, and Don Jr.'s response: |
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12-04-2021, 09:30 PM | #50 |
BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
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So, according to Baldwin and a witness, he didn't actually pull (or even touch) the trigger, just cocked it and let go of the hammer and it went off
he also supposedly had no idea there was live ammo anywhere on set and they think the people they got the blanks from might have inadvertently given them a live bullet. if this is all true, he shouldn't and won't be charged, right? or is it normal for old guns to go off like that and he should have known? I only watched part of his interview and I can't imagine not feeling guilt even if it wasn't my fault, so I find that very offputting, but what do I know. Probably got told saying he feels guilty would look bad in any kind of trial. Last edited by reprise85 : 12-04-2021 at 09:44 PM. |
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12-04-2021, 10:13 PM | #51 |
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Yeah, I read about this today, too. I don't believe he didn't pull the trigger.
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12-05-2021, 02:51 AM | #52 |
Minion of Satan
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Isn't cocking and letting go of the hammer on the kind of revolver one might find in a Western more or less the same as pulling the trigger?
In terms of outcome, I mean. |
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