kicking a roommate out

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 11:55 AM

a little bit of history:

before i moved in, i was starting to become pretty good friends with this girl. we got to know each other fairly well, and have had some really great conversations about life, relationships, blah blah fucking blah. well, unbeknownst to me, my landlord had all kinds of problems with her paying late, giving him the runaround about the reasons for it, people moving in and out with no notice before i moved in, etc. from what he tells me, he was ready to evict her and my other friend who was living with her. but i took over handling the rent, and we've established a really good owner/tenant relationship. the other roommate and i get along famously, and i really enjoy living with him... things were fine for a while. we had normal roommate *issues* here and there, but nothing intolerable. but none of the latter has to do the blatant irresponsibility that has shot to the surface of the girl's every day living...

now she doesn't bother to give me rent on time, and this month opted to just not pay it at all. rather than let me handle it, effectively saving her ass, she insisted on talking to the landlord directly thinking everything would be just fucking peachy. well, now the landlord is angry as hell, and has demanded that she leave. fine by me, but he won't talk to her about it, insisting that i can do it. >_< at this point, she still doesn't know that she's being *evicted*.

there are some complications as well: she was there first, she and the other roommate were friends first, and worst of all, she has metamorphasized into one of the angriest, trainwreck drunks i've ever seen. i can't talk to her about anything without her immediately becoming defensive and generally snapping back with "quit judging me."

things are so tense in our place that we can't all be in the same room together.... i clearly have the upper hand with the landlord and roommate on my side, but i'm getting concerned about how this is going to play out once she realizes that she has no ground to stand on. or apartment to live in. or any friends left...

hnibos · 03-17-2008, 11:58 AM

we live in a chaotic world that we must adapt to. it sucks for her but you have to do whats best for yourself. Let her know and thats that, move on.

JapanAlex · 03-17-2008, 11:59 AM

just write her a letter and then go and stay with a friend until she is gone

or you could tell her nicely?

mxzombie · 03-17-2008, 12:00 PM

get her a card that says how sorry you are that she has to leave and then leave it for her

hnibos · 03-17-2008, 12:00 PM

wait, why is your tenant such a bitch?

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 12:04 PM

see, i've been trying to figure that out... she's always been kind of surly, but this out of control, i'mnotlisteningtoanyone lalalalala, taking drinks out of people's hands thing is a pretty recent development.

i had a long conversation with my other roommate last nite, and he absolutely agrees that i haven't *done* anything to her. i mean, i've asked her to clean up her messes, pay me for bills, and to not get shitty with me, but only recently did i get so riled up that i told her to go fuck herself after she accused me of abusing her cat. i don't like the cat, but i am no animal abuser.

Rockin' Cherub · 03-17-2008, 12:05 PM

this calls for an intervention

JapanAlex · 03-17-2008, 12:13 PM

do you like this show or was it just to fit the joke?

just because IT SUCKS

cork_soaker · 03-17-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxzombie

get her a card that says how sorry you are that she has to leave and then leave it for her

dear whositwhatsit
i'm sorry; you have to leave
enjoy the card
love,
personperson

sppunk · 03-17-2008, 12:38 PM

Is your name on the lease?

Eulogy · 03-17-2008, 12:39 PM

i don't get why the landlord can't tell her. how can he make that your responsibility?

aurel · 03-17-2008, 12:41 PM

You should put the entire system trial.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk

Is your name on the lease?

no lease... it expired in december, which makes the whole thing all loosey goosey. : /

sppunk · 03-17-2008, 12:53 PM

I'm nearly positive you have absolutely no legal authority to kick her out - she has just as much right as staying there as you, and you have no control over her living situation.

Your landlord will have to evict her if he wants her out.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy

i don't get why the landlord can't tell her. how can he make that your responsibility?

i've been telling him over and over that i want him to do it, but then he just repeats "well, you can tell her, or i can tell her, but she don't listen to me."

and i'll say, "yes, but i really think it would be more effective if it was you, as the landlord, who did it."

"yes, tom. absolutely. so, you know, you can tell her, or i can tell her. we'll get this taken care of." which translates into, "you live with her. i don't want to talk to her crazy ass. you do it."

he's one of those people who repeats things four and five times in a conversation for no real reason, other than to make sure you know his stance despite any kind of objection on your part. really, really nice guy, but he just doesn't listen sometimes.

Cool As Ice Cream · 03-17-2008, 12:55 PM

just put a knitting needle in her ear while she sleeps. this way you can avoid further confrontations and the landlord will be happy too.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk

Your landlord will have to evict her if he wants her out.

this is pretty much where i was expecting this to go. i planned on calling him about it again today.

thanks.

sppunk · 03-17-2008, 01:01 PM

You have every right to tell her to leave and all, but she has no reason to listen to you. If she leaves when you tell her, awesome, but I sure as hell wouldn't if I were her.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 01:14 PM

okee...

my other roommate is going to get the part of the rent that she still owes, and when he has it in his hand, he's dropping the bomb about her having to leave. i just got off the phone with the landlord, and he's already been talking to his lawyer. if necessary, she will be legally evicted, so this is essentially out of my hands now. thank christ.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk

You have every right to tell her to leave and all, but she has no reason to listen to you. If she leaves when you tell her, awesome, but I sure as hell wouldn't if I were her.

so, you wouldn't leave because it's just some guy telling you and not the landlord?

commando · 03-17-2008, 01:31 PM

legal evictions are a pain, too. Too bad she won't just leave. It could take like 3 months to do it.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 03:48 PM

everything has been sorted out, no legal processes necessary, and she'll be out by the end of the month.

for something that's been building for over a month now, this certainly found its final resolution fairly quickly.

Eulogy · 03-17-2008, 03:49 PM

o/

does she hate you now though or what

jigga · 03-17-2008, 03:51 PM

put whorcestershire in her liquor!

KrazeeStacee · 03-17-2008, 04:00 PM

Yeah how did you guys sign the lease? There are 2 types of leases - basically it comes down to if each is responsible for their separate part - or if you all are responsible for the whole.

If it's the first one, he has to deal with her. If it's the second, it's your job.

The first isn't really common but it sounds like that's how your landlord has treated you guys as tenants.

Either way, that's messed up. Good luck, hope it works out. If you need any help with anything let me know!

KrazeeStacee · 03-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caine Walker

everything has been sorted out, no legal processes necessary, and she'll be out by the end of the month.

for something that's been building for over a month now, this certainly found its final resolution fairly quickly.

Oh! Cool

lol

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy

o/

does she hate you now though or what

*\o

and she totally hates me. but you know what? i'm better off.

i don't need people like this in my life.

sppunk · 03-17-2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caine Walker

so, you wouldn't leave because it's just some guy telling you and not the landlord?

If I was living somewhere and a roommate who is not on any lease told me to leave I'd ignore them. They would have no legal backing for telling me to leave.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Yeah how did you guys sign the lease? There are 2 types of leases - basically it comes down to if each is responsible for their separate part - or if you all are responsible for the whole.

If it's the first one, he has to deal with her. If it's the second, it's your job.

The first isn't really common but it sounds like that's how your landlord has treated you guys as tenants.

Either way, that's messed up. Good luck, hope it works out. If you need any help with anything let me know!

i was never on the lease, that's the thing. originally, it was her and two other people and that expired in december. since i've been in charge for the last five months, three of those have been month-to-month. over that period of time, i built up a trust with the landlord and now he's willing to sign a lease with me.

i'm so effin' relieved that this is all over. now we just have to make sure she gets her salty ass moved OUT.

Caine Walker · 03-17-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk

If I was living somewhere and a roommate who is not on any lease told me to leave I'd ignore them. They would have no legal backing for telling me to leave.

i hearya.

but not paying rent...? come on, she had to expect that something was going to shake down. or not. :: shrug::

03-17-2008, 11:55 AM	#1
Caine Walker Braindead Posts: 15,482	kicking a roommate out a little bit of history: before i moved in, i was starting to become pretty good friends with this girl. we got to know each other fairly well, and have had some really great conversations about life, relationships, blah blah fucking blah. well, unbeknownst to me, my landlord had all kinds of problems with her paying late, giving him the runaround about the reasons for it, people moving in and out with no notice before i moved in, etc. from what he tells me, he was ready to evict her and my other friend who was living with her. but i took over handling the rent, and we've established a really good owner/tenant relationship. the other roommate and i get along famously, and i really enjoy living with him... things were fine for a while. we had normal roommate issues here and there, but nothing intolerable. but none of the latter has to do the blatant irresponsibility that has shot to the surface of the girl's every day living... now she doesn't bother to give me rent on time, and this month opted to just not pay it at all. rather than let me handle it, effectively saving her ass, she insisted on talking to the landlord directly thinking everything would be just fucking peachy. well, now the landlord is angry as hell, and has demanded that she leave. fine by me, but he won't talk to her about it, insisting that i can do it. >_< at this point, she still doesn't know that she's being evicted. there are some complications as well: she was there first, she and the other roommate were friends first, and worst of all, she has metamorphasized into one of the angriest, trainwreck drunks i've ever seen. i can't talk to her about anything without her immediately becoming defensive and generally snapping back with "quit judging me." things are so tense in our place that we can't all be in the same room together.... i clearly have the upper hand with the landlord and roommate on my side, but i'm getting concerned about how this is going to play out once she realizes that she has no ground to stand on. or apartment to live in. or any friends left...

03-17-2008, 03:48 PM	#22
Caine Walker Braindead Posts: 15,482	success! everything has been sorted out, no legal processes necessary, and she'll be out by the end of the month. for something that's been building for over a month now, this certainly found its final resolution fairly quickly.

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03-17-2008, 11:58 AM	#2
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,017	we live in a chaotic world that we must adapt to. it sucks for her but you have to do whats best for yourself. Let her know and thats that, move on.

03-17-2008, 11:59 AM	#3
JapanAlex Apocalyptic Poster Location: Mr. Donut's Posts: 1,216	just write her a letter and then go and stay with a friend until she is gone or you could tell her nicely?

03-17-2008, 12:00 PM	#4
mxzombie Braindead Location: i like traffic lights, but only when they're green. Posts: 15,683	get her a card that says how sorry you are that she has to leave and then leave it for her

03-17-2008, 12:04 PM	#6
Caine Walker Braindead Posts: 15,482	see, i've been trying to figure that out... she's always been kind of surly, but this out of control, i'mnotlisteningtoanyone lalalalala, taking drinks out of people's hands thing is a pretty recent development. i had a long conversation with my other roommate last nite, and he absolutely agrees that i haven't done anything to her. i mean, i've asked her to clean up her messes, pay me for bills, and to not get shitty with me, but only recently did i get so riled up that i told her to go fuck herself after she accused me of abusing her cat. i don't like the cat, but i am no animal abuser.

03-17-2008, 12:05 PM	#7
Rockin' Cherub Braindead Location: the amazing year 400 million Posts: 18,188	this calls for an intervention

03-17-2008, 12:13 PM	#8
JapanAlex Apocalyptic Poster Location: Mr. Donut's Posts: 1,216	do you like this show or was it just to fit the joke? just because IT SUCKS

03-17-2008, 12:38 PM	#10
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,109	Is your name on the lease?

03-17-2008, 12:39 PM	#11
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,456	i don't get why the landlord can't tell her. how can he make that your responsibility?

03-17-2008, 12:41 PM	#12
aurel Apocalyptic Poster Location: Maximum Homosapien crammed down your HaHa hole. Posts: 2,337	You should put the entire system trial.

03-17-2008, 12:53 PM	#14
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,109	I'm nearly positive you have absolutely no legal authority to kick her out - she has just as much right as staying there as you, and you have no control over her living situation. Your landlord will have to evict her if he wants her out.

03-17-2008, 12:55 PM	#16
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,540	just put a knitting needle in her ear while she sleeps. this way you can avoid further confrontations and the landlord will be happy too.

03-17-2008, 01:01 PM	#18
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,109	You have every right to tell her to leave and all, but she has no reason to listen to you. If she leaves when you tell her, awesome, but I sure as hell wouldn't if I were her.

03-17-2008, 01:14 PM	#19
Caine Walker Braindead Posts: 15,482	okee... my other roommate is going to get the part of the rent that she still owes, and when he has it in his hand, he's dropping the bomb about her having to leave. i just got off the phone with the landlord, and he's already been talking to his lawyer. if necessary, she will be legally evicted, so this is essentially out of my hands now. thank christ.

03-17-2008, 01:31 PM	#21
commando Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,663	legal evictions are a pain, too. Too bad she won't just leave. It could take like 3 months to do it.

03-17-2008, 03:49 PM	#23
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,456	o/ does she hate you now though or what

03-17-2008, 03:51 PM	#24
jigga Oblivious Virgin Posts: 42	put whorcestershire in her liquor!

03-17-2008, 04:00 PM	#25
KrazeeStacee Registered User Location: Sherwood Forest Posts: 21,296	Yeah how did you guys sign the lease? There are 2 types of leases - basically it comes down to if each is responsible for their separate part - or if you all are responsible for the whole. If it's the first one, he has to deal with her. If it's the second, it's your job. The first isn't really common but it sounds like that's how your landlord has treated you guys as tenants. Either way, that's messed up. Good luck, hope it works out. If you need any help with anything let me know!