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Old 01-21-2015, 02:54 AM   #91
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what's so wrong about working hard to make a living
Also nobody is saying anything like this

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:55 AM   #92
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life's tough, man
have you watched the wire yet

because you probably should

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:55 AM   #93
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because i don't think you have any conception of how hard life is for the poor

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:56 AM   #94
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No he totally is poor man you just have to work hard and stuff

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:58 AM   #95
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"Hard Work" is the phrase you hear the most from people who have zero knowledge of politics and economics and how they relate to the individual

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:59 AM   #96
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i like it when i hear it in the office

"i'm working hard"
you're fucking seated

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:59 AM   #97
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ok, trots

way to generalize

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:00 AM   #98
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yeah it can be incredibly stressful and i guess i'm splitting hairs over an idiom but i'll take 10 hours of deadline office work to 6 hours at a fucking mcdonalds

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:05 AM   #99
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life's tough, man
I hate when people break this out.

It's not about life being "tough" it's about it being unequal

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:23 AM   #100
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you are right

men were not created equal

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:40 AM   #101
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They aren't treated equally

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:42 AM   #102
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no i think he's saying that some people are better than others

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:44 AM   #103
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I know that's what he's saying

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:46 AM   #104
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Pretty much any argument saying that wealth is distributed based on individual worth fails pretty hard when you look at the gap in wealth between whites and non-whites

Unless of course, you're a racist

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:48 AM   #105
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i'm not racist it's just that black people blame racism instead of working hard

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:48 AM   #106
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duh

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:50 AM   #107
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I'm expecting the "black culture" angle

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:33 AM   #108
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I'm basically right above the poverty line right now.

I'm not some super rich asshole if that's what you think.

edit: shit I've been stressing over whether I can make rent this month for the last week
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what's so wrong about working hard to make a living

you guys call it "bootstrapping", like it's an impossible task
You said you're at or near the poverty line and you're worried about making rent. So you work hard and are poor. And you think that's ok?

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:46 AM   #109
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i'd be happy to pay higher taxes to make public transport more affordable. It's definitely something that limits movement for people on lower incomes, which sucks.

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:43 AM   #110
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It'd also probably be pretty easy to tie it in to other programs. Like if you're on Medicaid or receiving other assistance you just get a card giving you access to the public transportation where you live. Right?

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:10 AM   #111
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Hes a white man he knows how it is
This statement is so ignorant, yet still you are incapable of understanding why. What you are saying is that only white people can do this. You are white..... Also, you are saying that black and hispanics and every other race are incapable of doing it. If that is not a racist statement.....

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:11 AM   #112
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because as hunter s wrote in the 70s, this horatio alger myth is fucking bullshit and there's a lot less upward mobility than you think

and you subscribe to this self serving mentality that you 'worked hard' to do whatever it is that you do even though I'm sure you're from a place where you got a head start on life by having a middle class upbringing, access to health care and education and a fairly stable home and your mother wasn't, for example, a smack addict and you didn't struggle on the daily to be fed
Wrong assumption......

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:14 AM   #113
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And then the bootstrapper says:

"Yeah well what about that one famous guy who had drug addict parents and is now a millionaire"
Coming from a self professed mommy and daddy still pay my bills person, yet you still are unable to be successful. Oh yea....you have mental problems. Good thing no other people with mental issues are successful people too.

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:16 AM   #114
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i like it when i hear it in the office

"i'm working hard"
you're fucking seated
Well yea....they are seated. You can work hard seated, and you can slack off seated. You are the slack off.

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:17 AM   #115
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[quote=Trotskilicious;4143395]i'm not racist............

Last edited by Tootles : 01-21-2015 at 10:29 AM.

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:32 AM   #116
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Why are non-whites on average drastically poorer than whites?

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:33 AM   #117
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Why is the number one indicator of where you will end up economically the social class you were born into?

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:11 AM   #118
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You are right guys.....it can't be done. What class you are born into, you are stuck for life. You win.

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:16 AM   #119
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Oh yea...except for Elf. He is the one exception. Middle class parents. Bills paid. Yet he STILL BITCHES AND COMPLAINS!!!!!!! And yet we wonder why he is unsuccessful in life.

 
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:16 AM   #120
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Because the MAN is holding him down still!!!!

 
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