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01-15-2015, 01:55 AM | #181 |
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I'll be frank, the sudden popularity of SWANS is no doubt pitchfork related.
doesn't change what the music is, the flip-side of Sonic Youth for for folks who like shit DARK stop acting like the band itself is the enemy, Michael Gira is nearly 60 he's not part of our fucking culture wars |
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01-15-2015, 01:56 AM | #182 | |
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01-15-2015, 01:57 AM | #183 |
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what is wrong with art school? why shouldn't you be educated? why are you so oblivious to your own envy?
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01-15-2015, 02:01 AM | #184 |
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oh and how are you oblivious to your own hypocrisy? you cry about how we're mean to a juvenile punk band for teenagers and you act like you're entitled to be condescending about something you equate to "40s mom rock" which i think is technically sleater-kinney
like if you really want to be the agreeable cool guy then follow through and stop judging stuff you don't get |
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01-15-2015, 02:01 AM | #186 |
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shouldn't get mad on the internet, but boy, i am
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01-15-2015, 02:02 AM | #187 |
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also drop dead i still want that
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01-15-2015, 02:02 AM | #188 |
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"art boy wankery"
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01-15-2015, 02:03 AM | #189 |
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What's the big deal? you like the arty, exploratory, progressive kind of stuff and I like the intense, hook-laden, straight to the point urgency in music.
It's all personal opinion. I think Swans are incredibly bland and boring, but if you like them- all the power to you. It's all just personal opinion. I really don't mean to insult anyones tastes... It simply just isn't music that appeals to me. |
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01-15-2015, 02:03 AM | #190 |
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he's taking the piss i mean seriously that line abt 40s mom rock is just too much
i mean they are both art school. but there's nothing wrong with art school. Sonic Youth went to art school. Talking Heads went to art school. Pixies went to fucking art school. All these were enshrined by bro rockers because they have just enough mainstream exposure for them to accept it as legitimate |
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01-15-2015, 02:03 AM | #191 |
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unbelievable. why would any person even try to argue about something that they don't have an iota of knowledge about
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01-15-2015, 02:04 AM | #192 |
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01-15-2015, 02:05 AM | #193 |
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so why do you do it
I mean if you make fun of them that's one thing...if you say they are dreary, difficult, boring and etc i've heard it before don't question my genuineness. every time i get this from you & the like. that i like bands for cred. do you know how little cred i have? i like stuff for genuinely liking it i do mean to insult nofx because you're a grown up and that music is for juvenile dicks |
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01-15-2015, 02:06 AM | #194 |
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It doesn't appeal to me, but I've listened to enough of the music to form an educated opinion on it.
Musics subjective though... My opinion and evaluation of the music is obviously a polar opposite to your evaluation of it... Nothing to get worked up about. I think NOFX is great and you guys cut it down because you don't enjoy it... Nothing different than my stance on Swans |
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01-15-2015, 02:08 AM | #195 |
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01-15-2015, 02:08 AM | #196 |
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HOLY SHIT THIS SWANS TRACK HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTENSITY!!!
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01-15-2015, 02:09 AM | #197 | |
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It makes for a fiery debate, but it really is nothing to get worked up about. I hate when guys get all "SHUT YOUR MOUTH, You don't know what you're talking about!" as if their opinion is the only right one. |
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01-15-2015, 02:10 AM | #198 |
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you call this a debate
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01-15-2015, 02:11 AM | #200 |
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a debate is usually fueled by informed opinions. you opinion about these bands is fueled by nothing whatsoever, except this fucking juvenile obsession/prejudice with 'hipsters'
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01-15-2015, 02:11 AM | #201 |
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what's ironic is that if i said "i started liking swans in 2010 when I heard My Father Will Guide Me a Rope Up to the Sky. It took a couple listens but I started to bond with it in dare i say it a spiritual way. that record effected me on a very profound level. reading michael gira's interviews merely validated my conviction that this is a band that hits a very specific chord of my being." I'd be accused of pretending to like them before they were cool
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01-15-2015, 02:11 AM | #202 |
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i mean for god's sake, you're insulting bands because of their names
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01-15-2015, 02:12 AM | #203 |
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01-15-2015, 02:13 AM | #204 |
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01-15-2015, 02:13 AM | #206 |
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Swans released their first EP in 1982 - and it sounds like NOTHING else that had been produced until that point. Absolutely no reference point, complete originality. if my calculations are correct, they're coming up 33 years of producing completely original music.
if that's pretentious, then fuck originality right? |
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01-15-2015, 02:14 AM | #207 |
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01-15-2015, 02:15 AM | #208 |
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using NOFX as a punching bag is just a bonus because i hate that fucking band so goddamn much and it really speaks to your overall maturity level Quote:
why do you have a fucking opinion about swans? that's what I want to know. I don't have opinions on music i listened to 10 seconds of |
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01-15-2015, 02:17 AM | #210 |
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seriously
for someone so caught up with what he considers real and original he really can't stand it when someone isn't real and original within the parameters he sets for acceptable realness and originality |
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