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![]() Again, our future is in the machines
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But I’m a massive hypocrite because I see theism as 50/50 for similar justification, like, we still know very little, and nowhere near enough to know for sure whether a divine creator exists. It’s a binary yes/no situation. And without having accumulated evidence for either, the odds are necessarily 50% Something like that See what I mean. I disgust myself |
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![]() I think we're ALREADY in the machines
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![]() It's more logical to believe in God than it is to think that humans, with our bias-prone minds and rudimentary tools, can claim to understand contradictory or unobservable components of physics.
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![]() God is a butt-loving alien
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All I wanted was for you to explain what the fuck you're saying, like I can't even figure out if you're talking about up-down, left-right dimensions or parallel realities or are somehow conflating both, but at any rate you're being completely incomprehensible, and weirdly defensive about it now that, I guess, we haven't all just nodded sagely at your wackadoodle belief system you can't articulate in any way |
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![]() I'm not sure when I professed to have an intricate belief system. I'm only defensive against the unexpected onslaught over the possibility of not knowing what we don't know. And the air of superiority against an entire worldview shift being introduced with a new discovery, in a way that we haven't even measured the likelihood of because we can't observe enough to calculate it yet.
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it would be so lame and disappointing if there was nothing but us. it's simply way more fun to believe in the spiritual as well; it's nice to believe even while 'knowing' it's probably fake. the way i see it, there's so much science doesn't know yet, so many things yet to be discovered, so many belief systems have been radically changed over time, why is this one in 2023 necessarily the end of science, we have reached Truth [resume] Last edited by Ram27 : 07-26-2023 at 11:18 PM. |
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![]() I'm very happy to learn and to be wrong, especially about complicated math, and moreover when it is concrete. I don't need to be talked to like a moron or conspiracy theorist because I think big surprises can happen, and that what is currently considered to be "most likely" is subject to change.
I'm not out here preaching the gospel of 5th dimensional consciousness aliens, or whatever. But I hope they're more benevolent and instructive than you've been today, topleybird. |
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![]() Del. This is actually exactly what I wanted from today and I couldn't be more fascinated.
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![]() I hope they're more able to convey meaning through words than you've been today
I'm not trying to be instructive, I'm seriously just trying to understand what you even said Like, No, you said something specific about aliens existing in high dimensions and asked a really confusing question about "navigating the fourth dimension" in a way that apparently meant something to you, and you won't explain any of it—this isn't about you saying "we have no idea what's out there," this is about you saying "here's specifically what I think is out there" and then not being willing to clarify |
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![]() I'm not unwilling to clarify, I just don't have the level of detail you're seeking because a specific type of alien isn't some unshakable core belief of mine. Humanity's general ignorance to the workings of the universe is a core belief though, hence any defensiveness. I think that it's more likely there is intelligence outside of the scope of our observation, via existing within a plane not accessible to our senses (dimension, no?) than something like The Greys. This seems to have all stemmed from my overly colloquial use of the word "dimension" and the compulsion to pick that apart to the point that it completely overshadowed my actual intent.
Further, it's preposterous to insinuate that I'm somehow completely unique in considering there might be life and/or intelligence beyond our perception and ability to measure. You're too smart to play dumb just to prove your point that my terminology isn't perfect. Last edited by ilikeplanets : 07-27-2023 at 01:33 AM. Reason: My ability to convey meaning through words |
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![]() On a wholly unrelated note...what do you all set your thermostat to? I feel like 72 or 73 is great but I have some dissenters and want to know if my preference is popular.
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![]() Ours is at 74 these days but it gets cool for me so i'd rather bump it up to 75 or 76.
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I just got annoyed at the "we used to believe the sun went around the earth" thing because it's used so often, among fringe groups, to mean "well SCIENCE is wrong all the time so why CAN'T the earth be hollow and filled with mind-controlling reptilians?" Given I couldn't make any sense out of what you said, I figured that's also what you meant by it. And maybe it is, and I just need to let that go. |
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![]() Also we have an insanely drafty, hard-to-heat, no-AC house, so we do 62 or 63 in winter, down to I think 58 at night, and just turn the thermostat off the rest of the year. We tried 68 the first year and our first heating bill was absurd, like we were so sure the energy company had accidentally charged us for several neighboring houses as well or something.
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![]() i put it down to 73 and tommy is walking around talking about how cold it is. 75 is too hot. put on a sweater, DUDE!
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![]() My understanding, from watching hundreds of hours of PBS space time, was that string theory is generally accepted among astrophysicists because the math works correctly, even if it's not testable. In string theory we live in 4 dimensions but there are other dimensions that are "curled up" that we do not experience on the classical scale (animals, planets, galaxies).
I thought the big challenge that no one has been able to solve is how to make string theory compatible with Einstein's relativity, because they both work but seem to be incompatible with each other mathematically. BTW it's crazy to think Einstein's theories are a century old and there hasn't been much more significant progress beyond the theoretical at explaining certain things about the fundamentals of existence. |
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![]() I think it's also generally accepted that there could be other realities which are stacked against ours, and (I don't totally understand this part) when you look at all the dimensions including the truncated ones, those realities could literally be millimeters away from us. But obviously they would be inaccessible and we could never test it.
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![]() if anyone is seriously interested, these videos are my absolute favorite shit
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![]() I have watched dozens of those videos, too. Which has probably shaped my understanding in a big way, but not enough to succinctly express my suppositions.
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![]() like he says in the video the Hadron Collider people thought they would find supersymmetric particles which would greatly help bring it all together, but so far they havent
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