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#211 |
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![]() Machina electric demos??
Not sure if i have ever heard of these, ...I know the Acoustic Demos. or is this a joke related to the current Leaks ![]() if not, any info in these/links? |
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![]() Yeah, it's about the current leaks. but it ain't no joke! There's electric demos out there somewhere, dammit, and they ought to be part of this collection.
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![]() [quote=magikarp99;4080467]Files uploaded to hosting sites never last long. The current plan is to create torrents I believe. But maybe we could use some web seeds, or seed boxes or something.
Shouldn't a Dropbox or similar with enough space for demos be do-able? and shouldn't they last for as long as that account is active? Im not fully in the know about all the forms of online storage, but files should last forever/unless you take them down. an alternative is having several people with dropbox links with a few demos each? or i suppose a torrent world work, but i do see a torrent being something not lasting that long, as it will need constant people seeding it. |
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![]() dropbox/sendspace/mediafire/megaupload/what-have-you can all get contacted by the record label or a related organisation, and be asked to take the copyright protected content down.
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![]() Online storage sites are more susceptible to takedown notices, and they certainly don't last forever. Torrents will last as long as there are members of the community willing to seed, and as easy as it is to seed.
And I don't think it would be appropriate for there to be any money changing hands--I think it should simply be one fan sharing with another. |
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![]() torrents are worth a shot. if it doesn't work out for some reason, we can still look at other options.
i can see it working with torrents: even if the seeds disappear at some point, a lot of people will have everything, so it shouldn't be too hard to find people to reseed, especially on here. and if more stuff shows up, we can always add torrents to the canon. |
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![]() yeah torrents are easy, could be best way to go. easy to re-seed, and like you said, it will easily spread better quality stuff out there. allowing for more people on here to get copies, and/or help with more seeding in future
![]() so how far have we got? whats needed still, will this happen is stages? or are you waiting for 1 large torrent? |
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![]() we're not going for one large torrent.
individual torrents are easier to handle, and apparently it's possible to pack different torrent files in a zip, for the people who want everything in one go. the zip can always be updated once more stuff is added. how far we've got: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...27#post4073927 i guess we could already start with what we have. i wouldn't know how to do this magnet stuff though. |
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![]() oh cool!,
I had a look at the list, nice stuff to start with, Also, not sure if it helps, but I have also found on my HDD: MSOTS Rough mixes (6 tracks) MSOTS Premasters (8 tracks) Both are in Wav and Flac, but have no notes on them. and i have a bunch of the SPUN soundtrack stuff, but it all varies in quality, |
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![]() i think i have those msots rough mixes and premasters too. will have to have a look.
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The MSOTS rough mix and premaster were shared on Netphoria together over FTP, which I think is how they came into mass circulation. But, they did not come from the same source. When shared on Netphoria, I don't think they came with any sort of info or lineage. It would be great if you could give more details on your SPUN files and the MSOTS files. |
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![]() Just wanted to throw something out there, regarding file sharing sites. I realize that torrenting is the preferred method (I think, from what I've read) and that file-hosting sites are generally unreliable. Is anyone familiar with google drives?
One free account gives you 15GB of storage and it would only be a matter of sharing the link(s) to the folder(s). I'm sure that, between a few different people, all the material could be shared between a few different folders. They needn't be personal google accounts either. Ones can be created specifically for this. The flakiness factor is still there - someone could shut down a folder just as easily as they could not seed. Just an idea for an option... |
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![]() So what is meant by "good lineage" for Gravity Demos or FAEOMM? I have files of these, but without any accompanying text files (though not from CD), is that the same as what's generally out there?
And as far as google drives or whatnot, I don't see a problem with trying it out and keeping these links up along with the magnet torrent links. The only issue is that then it becomes *somebody's* responsibility to keep them uploaded to the site, rather than *everybody's* responsibility to seed. |
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![]() the ZWAN Rough Mixes i have are in Wav, and file names are:
zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t01 zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t02 zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t03 zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t04 zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t05 zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t06 The Pre-masters are pretty much the same, in WAV also: zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t01 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t02 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t03 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t04 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t05 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t06 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t07 zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t08 I'm sure many people still have these, but if you need then like i said I have in both WAV & Flac. as for the SPUN OST, it all stuff from a torrent ages ago, but i think Linda strawberry shared some on her site years ago, so there are clean versions out there of a handful of the tracks, but all are in mp3. |
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http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=37362 These were shared here in FLAC IIRC. Do you remember where you got the WAV files from, did you transcode them yourself? I think these are the only copies that circulate en mass. As far as I know, most if not all of the MP3s out there are transcoded from the M4A files that got leaked (I think on Blamo). A bad rip of a Spun promo CD rip with a few tracks in FLAC is also out there, but there are so many blips and errors it's unlistenable. |
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#226 |
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![]() i guess for the zwan rough mixes and premasters, we best compare some shntool checksums.
is there anything on your list that i still have to upload/send your way, magickarper? |
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Potentially the MSOTS premasters and rough mixes. Psycho Tape 2 Disc DVD? Any of the Marked Demos? |
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#228 |
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![]() what about pi+friends? do you have that one?
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![]() No idea where i got them (ZWAN Premasters / Rough Mixes), was around 2005 I think, could have been a trade, or those downloads, i have no idea, but they sound pretty much the same quality.
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![]() I have the following PI+F:
Pisces Iscariot + Friends ANA-M > SBlive > SHN > WAV > editing (steinberg freefilter) > SHN * the discs you burn will effectively be CDR-0 * each disc is just over 50 mins, they're from opposite sides of a 100min tape * Mayo is cut (as it is on the tape) * steinberg freefilter is what Starseed used to do the EQ mirroring.. which is why the PI songs sound nearly identical to the CD versions. * "it's got a few pops and tape jumps, but overall it's pretty damn sweet" - Starseed A1 Soothe A2 Frail and Bedazzled A3 Plume A4 Whir A5 Blew Away A6 Pissant A7 Hello Kitty Kat A8 Obscured A9 Landslide [Nicks] A10 Starla A11 Blew Away A12 Girl Named Sandoz [Animals] B1 La Dolly Vita B2 Spaced B3 Not Worth Asking B4 Honeyspider B5 Daughter B6 Hope B7 Never Let Me Down [Depeche Mode] B8 Siva (acoustic) B9 Slunk (Chump) B10 Blue (acoustic) B11 Jazzin' B12 I Am One (live) B13 Mayonaise (acoustic) I'm not sure if that's the best lineage available. |
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I'm not sure if I fully understand the concept. No official SBDs, right? Could those maybe be collected for another torrent? I'm thinking of the releases from livesmashingpumpkins, like the White Crosses EP. I haven't paid attention for a long time, are those still available somewhere? Last edited by pavementtune : 08-01-2014 at 01:41 AM. |
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Demos can not go up there, but i think billy allows demos to be shared through traders, but the archive has it's own rules. I believe in essence that anything that is offical and the band/record company still makes money off and is still in print is simply a no-go. I'm looking forward to upgrading some mp3's of demos and such or things i have lost over the years, keen to listen to them in flac/wav / highest quality possible. Bring it on ![]() |
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#235 |
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![]() Yea I know archive.org can't do this, that's why I thought if you guys are collecting stuff that's not on there, maybe we could compare who has what.
Livepumpkins is gone, I don't know if you can actually purchase the White Crosses EP anywhere. It was a gift for those who were at the shows, digital only, nobody is making a profit of it (if I'm not mistaken), so I'm not sure if it would be okay to circulate it again or not. |
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#236 |
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![]() it's not about what's ok or not. anything goes. and everything will get its own torrent.
we're also doing this to get the "full" sources of the demos. (on zomb, for example, they leave songs out if that recording was also released.) if we didn't want the officially released tracks, for whatever reason, we might as well just torrent everything on zomb. |
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#237 |
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![]() sorry to go off topic, but does someone know what happened to livesmashingpumpkins.com, or if those releases are still available somewhere else?
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#238 |
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![]() it looks like they're still available.
http://www.livedownloads.com/live-mu...downloads.html http://nugs.net/Smashing_Pumpkins.htm |
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![]() Failed at finding it, shame on me. Thanks for the link!
(Redbull, next time I'm messing up some pages, I could also edit the links if you want? That's the date where Glow on the White Crosses EP came from, for example. http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp2008-12-02) Last edited by pavementtune : 08-01-2014 at 03:21 AM. |
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#240 |
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![]() i have all the flacs, if you'd be looking for something.
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