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03-26-2021, 10:59 AM | #301 |
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no one can manage BC better than BC himself. /s
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03-26-2021, 11:00 AM | #302 | |
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Billy is pretty much making all his own decisions with no one to challenge him. And that's all well and good if he were at the peak of his powers and all his decisions were the right ones. But they aren't. Regardless of him thinking the Cyr single was a hit, the album was a flop. Seriously, they needed some kind of Phil Towle-type guru to come in when D'arcy was coming back in the band. Get the four of them in a room talking to each other again. |
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03-26-2021, 12:48 PM | #303 |
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03-26-2021, 01:21 PM | #304 |
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where the viewphoria therapy clips staged?
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03-26-2021, 01:22 PM | #305 |
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03-26-2021, 05:04 PM | #306 | |
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03-26-2021, 06:01 PM | #307 |
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03-26-2021, 06:08 PM | #308 |
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yeah, that is some pretty funny album art
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03-26-2021, 06:18 PM | #309 |
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if it were NIN people would be having their heads put back together
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03-27-2021, 11:56 AM | #310 |
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03-27-2021, 11:57 AM | #311 |
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03-27-2021, 12:30 PM | #312 |
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should billy get trent to produce the next SP album?
now that courtney died, I suppose they can put their beef behind them to collaborate. |
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03-27-2021, 05:55 PM | #313 | |
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03-27-2021, 06:09 PM | #314 |
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i have no idea why they do the metronome shit
their music was written with the push/pull jazzy tempo fluctuations in mind. playing slow works on the record cause the tracks are so dense, but live, constraining them to a click is wrong |
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03-27-2021, 06:43 PM | #315 |
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got to play to a click if you want to kareoke along with multi-media.
check out this hit cued up at the live show: |
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03-28-2021, 01:42 AM | #316 | |
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Speaking of the 20th Anniversary Tour, how many people did he alienate, including promoters? Billy also went through a stretch of time where he refused to perform at festivals unless SP got headliner status. And finally, to culminate with these bigger transgressions, look at the labels backing U2 and Pearl Jam and look at the string of no-names that have put out SP albums. You're getting smaller budgets, worse deals being cut with radio stations and promoters. The last big label that SP used was for the Oceania tour and they were booking larger venues. SP has been shedding casual fans since 2007 when they "returned" but it was just Zwan rebranded. And then Billy went on his tour berating fans in 2008, then fired Jimmy, and then disappeared from the festival circuit because of his ego. So that when Jimmy and James came back, most people have tuned SP out, and without a big time promotion budget, don't know that SP has almost all of the band together. Oh and the music has gotten worse over the years. |
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03-28-2021, 09:00 AM | #317 |
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Plus another aspect is just what sound people think of when they think of the Pumpkins. People know what U2 sound like, and when the average person thinks of PJ it's probably Jeremy or Alive.
But is SP 1979? Tonight Tonight? Zero? Today? All those songs sound completely different. Which is obviously a good thing, but it makes it harder to "sell" SP as a single thing, which is what the other bands have done. Oh and No Line On The Horizon is awful. It had like one good song on it. The closest U2 have come to making a good album in the last 21 years is the one they gave away on everyone's iTunes, which caused it to get a good hiding. The most recent one was just awful shite. I think I've played Gigaton once all the way through. I've never managed to sit through all of Lightning Bolt. Backspacer is good, but not great. Binaural isn't even that good; you'd really need to go back to 1998 and Yield for a decent PJ album! |
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03-28-2021, 09:13 AM | #318 | |
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lots of them grew up. billy's sensitive feelings from SD were wonderful and unique - but most of the fans that connected with him grew up, had kids and 'fuck it, that's life, wallowing isn't going to change a thing'. WTF is machina about and how is that supposed to RESONATE with people? it doesn't. "I hear a voice of god and I'm losing my band". Aside from the looney "my lover died in a tragic accident" folks, most of us just seriously don't give a shit about that stuff. |
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03-28-2021, 11:12 AM | #319 |
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03-28-2021, 01:08 PM | #320 |
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03-28-2021, 03:11 PM | #321 |
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Lots of alt rock band releasing good albums
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03-28-2021, 05:19 PM | #322 |
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03-28-2021, 08:21 PM | #323 |
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03-28-2021, 09:51 PM | #324 |
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your dad's got a great body
(r.i.p. spool of a juke) |
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03-28-2021, 10:09 PM | #325 |
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The Joy Formidable is trash
And so is the Micropenis Nothing, in fact, rules, you jizzstain |
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03-28-2021, 10:50 PM | #326 |
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03-28-2021, 10:57 PM | #327 |
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on paper, sure
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03-28-2021, 11:40 PM | #328 |
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Hey their first two albums are great. Also, one of the best concerts I've ever been to. Rhydian, the bassist, noticed I was singing every word of every song and brought be up on stage. He proceed to knight me with the neck of his bass while they played a special jam song just for the ceremony. It was an awesome moment.
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03-29-2021, 06:08 AM | #329 |
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SO ANYWAY HOW ABOUT THAT NEW SMASHING PUMPKINS MCIS PT3?!?!
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03-30-2021, 09:00 AM | #330 |
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