New song Mar 14 - In Lieu of Failure

[Ram27]

6D chess putting the word failure in the title

more weird non-catchy off-putting distinctly un-enjoyable synth and nauseating vocals comin up? find out at 5am when strawberry or whoever is done editing the podcast

[enthusaroo]

or 'Failure' for short

[absof]

Thank you for updating your profile pic, Ram.

[russticles]

Bit of a dumb rock song, riff's lame, Jimmy's snare sounds sampled, ffs Howard.

Sounds more at home on Monuments to an Elegy.

Can't clearly hear many of the lyrics but these ones stood out:

"Alone alone lone lone lone"
"There she blows"

Enjoy!

[MyKeyZ]

The riff sounds like a crappier Wynona's Big Brown Beaver

[Forgotten Child]

[TheAlter]

"It's the world premiere of In Lieu Of Failure (with the sound of classic Pumpkins kids love!)"

I can't for the life of me understand why he thinks classic SP sound has anything to do with that synthetic, overproduced early 00s commercial rock trickery.

Also that passive-aggressive bit about wanting a million dollar to write a song in the year you want is the most pathetic shit ever. Bill bill bill...

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by russticles

Bit of a dumb rock song, riff's lame, Jimmy's snare sounds sampled, ffs Howard.

Sounds more at home on Monuments to an Elegy.

Can't clearly hear many of the lyrics but these ones stood out:

"Alone alone lone lone lone"
"There she blows"

Enjoy!

I heard something like "along the love", "alone but loved" and "alone and lost"

[djzap]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

"It's the world premiere of In Lieu Of Failure (with the sound of classic Pumpkins kids love!)"

I can't for the life of me understand why he thinks classic SP sound has anything to do with that synthetic, overproduced early 00s commercial rock trickery.

yeah i mean, i like this song, and in general the rocky songs on ATUM, but they are not at all 'classic Pumpkins'. closest we've got is Moss which sounds like it could be from Machina era. honestly most of these have more in common with 80s metal at times than 'classic Pumpkins'. if this is billy's attempt to give us some 'classic Pumpkins' style songs then i find that fascinating, because it really does not sound like old SP at all. i wonder what songs he's basing this perception of the classic Pumpkins sound on.

[Forgotten Child]

I actually think they should've slowed down this one a bit. The riffs sound better player at 0.8.

[VoxUpDoc]

When are Jimmy and James gonna be on the pod?

(Amused chuckle)

[New Art Rioter]

That journalist in Mexico has a good point

Sounds like Monuments/written in 10 mins/21 songs in 20 days/not Pumpkins 96

On plus side no synths!

[enthusaroo]

Failure = fail
ATUM = fail

[Crepe]

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc

When are Jimmy and James gonna be on the pod?

(Amused chuckle)

Jimmy has already done it

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by djzap

yeah i mean, i like this song, and in general the rocky songs on ATUM, but they are not at all 'classic Pumpkins'. closest we've got is Moss which sounds like it could be from Machina era. honestly most of these have more in common with 80s metal at times than 'classic Pumpkins'. if this is billy's attempt to give us some 'classic Pumpkins' style songs then i find that fascinating, because it really does not sound like old SP at all. i wonder what songs he's basing this perception of the classic Pumpkins sound on.

At this point one can really question how much of the so-called SP classic sound© was in fact influenced by external factors like Butch or Flood rejecting stuff, Billy wanting to be the torch-bearer of alternative island and be better than Nirvana, playing by the rules of the time (think REM doing Monster) etc…

[Shadaloo]

I don't even know how to begin unpacking this one.

I feel like the fact that he says this is the sound of '1996 Pumpkins' and the song has "Alone" for half of its chorus says a lot about what he's now capable of, and it shows that he truly doesn't understand what made old SP special and what makes people miss it - RAWK was only ever one element among many.

[Machinist]

I've transcribed the lyrics if you want to sing along:

I PASS THE SALT IF I COO CHAIN
(WOAH)
I BLEJ YOUR WALTZ AND HAVE FOR BLAME
(Oh JUST NO)
MY LIPS AN LISTS AN LAZE BELL US!
MY KIN ET KISS AN CHOKE AH BLASS!
(ALRIGHT!)
SEND IN THE CLONES!

[Machinist]

Song is ok, absolutely does not sound like MCIS / TAFH era aside from the Clones reference. Very post-2007 in feel.

Also, is Lisa contractually obliged to sing ON EVERY SONG?

[russticles]

Originally Posted by Machinist

Also, is Lisa contractually obliged to sing ON EVERY SONG?

*Katie Cole

[Machinist]

Good point. It's not like they are interchangeable.

[enthusaroo]

Katie Strawberry is on every god damn song

[Machinist]

Originally Posted by enthusaroo

Katie Strawberry is on every god damn song

It's what the fans want
what the fans want

Who are you to question
question question

Billy's decisions?
decisions decisions - woah woah

[Machinist]

Billy to Katie:

WILL YOU STOP FUCKING DOING THAT?

[eviltimeban]

I quite like this one! Obviously it has issues, the vocals are way to loud as per usual, but he's singing decently enough with a few of the little "oh's" that he used to do.

The odd timed section is very Monuments, but it's pretty good. The "alone" chorus is "feelalo" all over again though.

It's most likely my favourite one released so far though. I actually liked it, rather than finding excuses to think it was just ok.

[Ram27]

is he saying that no record company gave him more than $1M since 2007

i have no idea why anyone thinks dry clearly inorganic consistent velocity and timbre sampled snare is good. but i guess that skool of thot gave us this shitty numetal riff too

[Ram27]

even if porcelina 2 came out after that preamble it would be harder to enjoy given it's made by someone so bitter and obnoxious

[houseofglass11]

This song reminds me of the Toadies for some reason. It’s one of the better rockers on the album but geez the vocals are way too loud. When is this guy gonna realize his voice needs to be behind the guitars? If you have an aging voice you’d think you wouldn’t want to put it front and center for all its deficiencies to be clearly heard.

[paranoid]

some of you have your heads so far up your cynical asses that you missed the part about him saying this is a cover band covering old school SP.

I mean, talk about fodder for ridicule.

[paranoid]

anyway this sounds like a continuation of the marchin on vibe, which i don't have a problem with. definitely not getting monuments vibes as I'm not a fan of that one.

[paranoid]

also who was the fan that told him the zeitgeist themed website was too red? lol that's a hell of a story