LOL Billy didn't even put out the best three-act rock opera of the year

[topleybird]

Suck it, Bill, Christine & The Queens just knocked your dick in the dirt



Tough to pull out just one song as I think it's best experienced as a whole album (a tidy 97 minutes, btw, Bolly), but anyway today's release of PARANOÏA, ANGELS, TRUE LOVE absolutely wrecks the last possible good thing you could say about Atum

If you're new to Chris or just haven't checked up in a while, he's been using he/him pronouns lately, pls be respectful

[MyOneAndOnly]

nothing bill has done in the past 15 years can be considered best in any category

[Joey Goldberg]

Zeitgeist was the best Smashing Pumpkins albums of that year

o wait that was just over 15 yrs now (holy FUCK) u rite, u rite...

[ourruseoffools]

Best alienator

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly

nothing bill has done in the past 15 years can be considered best in any category

Wrong. He produced the best gothic puppet wrestling match.

[VoxUpDoc]

I respect the music but I am not calling some random celebrity by their latest preferred pronouns, sorry.

[TheSultanOfCyr]

Damn Doc, save some edge for the rest of us.

Also, don’t be lame if you can avoid it!

[T&T]

can you give me a synopsis of the storyline?

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by TheSultanOfCyr

Damn Doc, save some edge for the rest of us.

Also, don’t be lame if you can avoid it!

Please be kinder.

[VoxUpDoc]

Their pronouns are not fucking relevant.

Dipshits buying into tumblr ideology where the new most sensitive, protected characteristic is one which is socially constructed and co-opted by privileged narcissists.

[enthusaroo]

Zodeon doesn't completely suck dick though I already stopped listening to it

[topleybird]

Originally Posted by T&T

can you give me a synopsis of the storyline?

I found this Rolling Stone review a good way to understand it. By which I mean I'd need like twenty more listens to have figured it out.

[VoxUpDoc]

All the people clutching their pearls and going “wow” because gen z and online social spaces, especially in the US have uncritically accepted the idea not using preferred pronouns is “genocide” and literally worse than millenia of misogyny, racism and homophobia is incredible to see. Like a decade ago nobody gave a shit, and now there are feminists being fired from academia for reiterating long-established views about their own bodies and lived experiences… and topleybird lecturing people on a music artists pronoun choice of the day.

Netphoria the Smashing Pumpkins forum better do their bit and call Sam Smith a “they” because there’s no way a flamboyant pop star could be a narcissitic bandwagon jumping dipshit. Or Ezra Miller… or yeah, Christine the pansexual woman who is clearly a woman but cos she wears trousers and gets a flat-top we must denote her with the same language we apply to biological males or else we’re bigotted? Fuck that - idiots.

[Joey Goldberg]

lecturing people he literally just said "pls be respectful" lol

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

lecturing people he literally just said "pls be respectful" lol

I’m getting comments.

But it isn’t disrespectful to not know or care what pronoun a celebrity who will never even read this forum has decided they need to be known by.

[MyKeyZ]

Please be kinder.

[topleybird]

Folks, it's pretty simple: Any aspect of identity you didn't personally grow up with is fake and narcissistic, and people identifying as trans and regularly getting assaulted and/or murdered for it are simply looking for attention

Asking people to call you what you'd like to be called is socialism. This is why Billy switched back to William: it's what it says on his birth certificate and he's deeply embarrassed about having accidentally been woke for so long

What's next, marrying your horse?

[FlamingGlobes]

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc

All the people clutching their pearls and going “wow” because gen z and online social spaces, especially in the US have uncritically accepted the idea not using preferred pronouns is “genocide” and literally worse than millenia of misogyny, racism and homophobia is incredible to see. Like a decade ago nobody gave a shit, and now their are feminists being fired from academia for reiterating long-established views about their own bodies and lived experiences… and topleybird lecturing people on a music artists pronoun choice of the day.

Netphoria the Smashing Pumpkins forum better do their bit and call Sam Smith a “they” because there’s no way a flamboyant pop star could be a narcissitic bandwagon jumping dipshit. Or Ezra Miller… or yeah, Christine the pansexual woman who is clearly a woman but cos she wears trousers and gets a flat-top we must denote her with the same language we apply to biological males or else we’re bigotted? Fuck you - literal idiots.

*there

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by topleybird

Folks, it's pretty simple: Any aspect of identity you didn't personally grow up with is fake and narcissistic, and people identifying as trans and regularly getting assaulted and/or murdered for it are simply looking for attention

Define regularly cos the figures are actually around 370 globally every year and like 70% are in S America because of the ties between transgenderism and sex work.

Compared to like 80,000 females murdered for being female by male spouses and relatives.

But let’s pretend a white european pop star is at risk and targeted for how they choose to market themselves.

[topleybird]

Do you believe trans and non-gender-conforming people legitimately exist, as in they're not faking, mentally ill, jumping on a bandwagon? Or do you want to also look up (reported) assault numbers so you can make sure "females" have it worse, which would somehow justify your attitude about pronouns being a fad or whatever the fuck you think? Like do I need to clearly state I believe a whole lot of classes of people are being targeted these days for being who they are? I do! I also think all of that is bad! Why the fuck are you trying to shift the conversation in that direction?

I was not making any kind of point about Chris himself being targeted but, yeah, given your slobbering fury over the very idea of using other celebrities' pronouns, I think you've accidentally shown he's very likely gotten all kinds of wackjob death threats and vitriol because of this, from people like you.

[VoxUpDoc]

Yes you are absolutely correct, my being fucked off at being told to call Christine “him” for your benefit, is because I wish death on them. That is a rational position.

[ourruseoffools]

Ruh Roh scoob I don’t think voxupdoc is gonna be very happy that I’ve been injecting him with estradiol every night whilst he sleeps ://

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc

I respect the music but I am not calling some random celebrity by their latest preferred pronouns, sorry.

You have the mentality of a teenage boy. I know literal children more evolved then whatever this persona is. Step up your game, peepoo pants.

[VoxUpDoc]

Edit: not doing this on netphoria.

JK Rowling is right, intellectually and morally. Not justifying myself or debating here.

[FlamingGlobes]

Give us your thoughts on Dave Chappelle plz

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc

I respect the music but I am not calling some random celebrity by their latest preferred pronouns, sorry.

Why did you feel the need to post this. No one was talking about it.

[Joey Goldberg]

we certainly are now!

i'm sure the album's great

[TheAlter]

Looked at her wiki. She routinely changes pronouns because “I’m exploring”. No fucking way dude. Stick to your guns, world can’t tiptoe around pathological narcissists.

[NovaFritz]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

world can’t tiptoe around pathological narcissists.

that's exactly how I feel when I read your posts

[TheAlter]

You must be the boring one