stupid religious argument

[I'm Hardcore]

thats exactly what im talking about, redbreegull. thank you.

[Rockin' Cherub]

redbreegull's girlfriend sounds pretty hot/smart

[hnibos]

im sure they are a match made in heaven

[Rockin' Cherub]

i wonder if he'll threaten to kill himself again when that dumb chick leaves him

[Eulogy]

rbg, your girlfriend sounds like a complete idiot based on everything you've said about her.

dump that bitch.

[Rockin' Cherub]

that guy sure knows how to treat a woman

[ryan patrick]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

My girlfriend used the "there just has to be" thing on me last night. I mentioned in passive amazement that bears and dogs have a common ancestor and her response was, "Or maybe God created them both." I said, "Fine, but we have fossil evidence that the dog family and the bear family all evolved from one animal. Like whales and pigs or something." Her response: "There just has to be a God though. It couldn't have happened by itself."

Ah, whatever.

sounds like you and your girlfriend have some stimulating conversations

[ryan patrick]

Originally Posted by Shapan

god created god

god is super psychedelic

[JapanAlex]

jesus.....

[Shapan]

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000

this is the part where someone asks if god could make a rock so big even he couldn't move it

i always thought this was kinda obvious, no way could god make a rock so big that he can't move it because god could do fucking anything. it seems like he would say he could do this only to laugh and then pick up the rock to kill the person who said he couldnt move it. (this would be somewhere in the old testament) he can't create things and not manipulate them what the fuck, just ask jesus.

[Hillzy]

Originally Posted by Luke de Spa

dawkins calls this the "argument from personal incredulity"

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richard dawkins

I clicked on this thread solely to see what you had to say. Compelling stuff.

[Rockin' Cherub]

Originally Posted by Shapan

i always thought this was kinda obvious, no way could god make a rock so big that he can't move it because god could do fucking anything. it seems like he would say he could do this only to laugh and then pick up the rock to kill the person who said he couldnt move it. (this would be somewhere in the old testament) he can't create things and not manipulate them what the fuck, just ask jesus.

are you being serious? the whole point is that if god can do anything he should also be able to restrict himself. the solution to this problem that makes the most sense to me is that logic does not apply to an omnipotent being and thus he can do both: create a stone he cannot lift and lift that stone.

[Luke de Spa]

Originally Posted by Hillzy

I clicked on this thread solely to see what you had to say. Compelling stuff.

hey, "don't feed the retard" is pretty great advice

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

dump that bitch.

She might be hot, dont be too hasty rbg.

[Shapan]

Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

are you being serious? the whole point is that if god can do anything he should also be able to restrict himself. the solution to this problem that makes the most sense to me is that logic does not apply to an omnipotent being and thus he can do both: create a stone he cannot lift and lift that stone.

well it wasnt such a serious answer, but i do think that god wouldnt be able to create a stone he cannot lift because he'd be able to lift the stone regardless if he wanted to. he could restrict himself if he wanted to but i can restrict myself from slapping you in the face with my dick, doesn't mean i can't do it. he can create a stone that he would not lift but it doesn't mean that he can't do it. restrictions and capabilities are different things.

[Rockin' Cherub]

Originally Posted by Shapan

i do think that god wouldnt be able to create a stone he cannot lift

heretic. that would question his omnipotence

maybe restrict wasn't the right word

[Rockin' Cherub]

also was the slapping part some sort of dare / threat

[Thaniel Buckner]

i like that matt gave this thread an appropriate title right from the get go.

[Shapan]

Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

heretic. that would question his omnipotence

maybe restrict wasn't the right word

not being able to lift the rock questions his omnipotence too, but a vaguer definition of omnipotence sides with being able to lift the rock. i mean, either side would question it. either he cannot create something or he cannot lift something he has created. the reason i say god would not be able to create a rock he cannot lift is because he can manipulate anything as he sees fit. so its not so much against his power to create but for his power to manipulate.

manipulate sounds like a real devious word and god is just so he cannot deceive me blah blah blah.

the entire thing is suppose to be a paradox but picking both is such a copout.

[Rockin' Cherub]

there are various solutions shapan. people have thought about this for centuries. saying he can just do one of them simply because one interferes "more" with his omnipotence is a much bigger copout. it shatters the sheer basis of a monotheistic god.

[Kahlo]

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Religion. Ugh.

[Luke de Spa]

butts. unggh

[Shapan]

Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

there are various solutions shapan. people have thought about this for centuries. saying he can just do one of them simply because one interferes "more" with his omnipotence is a much bigger copout. it shatters the sheer basis of a monotheistic god.

you're gonna be pissed when i dickslap you

[Kahlo]

My grandfathers stock catchphrase is

"Religion is just a way to keep the poor folk busy talking nonsense, while they don't see the real problems like why they are poor"

You have to imagine that in a West Coast scottish accent.

"Religion iz jist a way tae keep they poor fowk bizzy talkin' shite, while they cannae see and deal wi the fact that they ir poor"

[ryan patrick]

god obviously can't create giant rocks, have you seen any super huge rocks anywhere

case closed

[Ever]

I had a big forty page argument on religion over at my highschool forums. Boyo they sure have been seeing a lot of me lately.

I should come back here. This is my home.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Kahlo

"Religion iz jist a way tae keep they poor fowk bizzy talkin' shite, while they cannae see and deal wi the fact that they ir poor"

i just read this aloud and i am amazed by my new scottish accent

[duovamp]

Epicurus riddle tbh.

[aurel]

Origin of the universe proposal 6,409,398B

Adam was a representation of god's horny loneliness. god removed his own rib to make a hot companion but decided against this when he realised with his rib removed he could now suck his own cock. From the moment gods lips touched his own purple parson he was transformed into a phasing singularity of sexual duality. The big bang was and is god rapt in an oroboros cycle of orgasmic ecstasy and self satisfaction from which all energy radiates and eventually recedes to. This explains why god always looks smug.

[Nimrod's Son]

How much more difficult is "there has to be a God" vs. "all matter in the universe was once compressed into a space smaller than a molecule, and then for some reason exploded" to believe?