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Old 09-25-2008, 12:25 AM   #1
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Those of you that may have seen either the press release or any info out there about the tour may find yourself scratching your head a bit about the shows format. We tried to keep it simple but as is our custom, its just not always that simple!! SO I thought I would post up some additional info to make sure that there was absolute clarity about what shows would be going on where-when.

First off, the 2 night format is about playing the most songs over 2 nights that would hopefully create very distinct shows from one another. No song will be repeated means exactly as it sounds, if you go to show #1 of a 2 night stand (black sunshine!), you wouldn't hear anything on night # 2 (white crosses) that you heard song-wise on the first night. The cities where we are playing only 1 show will feature an amalgamated show that will most likely have some songs we won't be playing in the 2 night format shows, but take from both the sunshine and the crosses show. Get it? I hope so...cause its a lot for us to digest as well.

Sunshine, Cross, or SS (special show for the one offs)

* Sat 11/1 Cleveland, OH Palace Theatre (SS)
* Mon 11/3 Toronto, ONT Massey Hall (sunshine)
* Tue 11/4 Toronto, ONT Massey Hall (crosses)
* Thu 11/6 New York, NY United Palace Theatre (sunshine)
* Fri 11/7 New York, NY United Palace Theatre (crosses)
* Sat 11/8 Atlantic City, NJ (SS) Borgata
* Tue 11/11 Washington, DC DAR Constitution Hall (sunshine)
* Wed 11/12 Washington, DC DAR Constitution Hall (crosses)
* Fri 11/14 Boston, MA Wang Center (sunshine)
* Sat 11/15 Boston, MA Wang Center (crosses)
* Sun 11/16 Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun Arena (SS)
* Tue 11/18 Chicago, IL Chicago Theatre (sunshine)
* Wed 11/19 Chicago, IL Chicago Theatre (crosses)
* Fri 11/21 Chicago, IL Auditorium Theatre (sunshine)
* Sat 11/22 Chicago, IL Auditorium Theatre (crosses)
* Mon 11/24 Kansas City, MO Midland Theatre (sunshine)
* Tue 11/25 Kansas City, MO Midland Theatre (crosses)
* Wed 11/26 St. Louis, MO Fox Theatre (SS)
* Sun 11/30 San Diego, CA RIMAC Arena (SS)
* Tue 12/2 Los Angeles, CA Gibson Amphitheatre (sunshine)
* Wed 12/3 Los Angeles, CA Gibson Amphitheatre (crosses)

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:26 AM   #2
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this thread needs to either be moved or deleted

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:10 AM   #3
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this thread needs to either be moved or deleted
WHY!? This is info that needs to be seen somewhere other than page 4 of the "No songs repeated on setlist" thread.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:16 AM   #4
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do you really think DMX gives a shit?


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Old 09-25-2008, 01:18 AM   #5
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the line interest me the most

The cities where we are playing only 1 show will feature an amalgamated show that will most likely have some songs we won't be playing in the 2 night format shows, but take from both the sunshine and the crosses show

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:23 AM   #6
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Wang Center

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:31 AM   #7
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Monte is this news hard? because I don't listen to flaccid news.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:33 AM   #8
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if you consider billy's blog a good source then sure

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:35 AM   #9
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come hard or don't come at all, taht's what i've always said

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:15 AM   #10
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come hard or don't come at all, taht's what i've always said
and so does your mom.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:04 AM   #11
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if you consider billy's blog a good source then sure
billy is the most unreliable source of them all

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:01 AM   #12
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"Special Shows" is news to me.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:23 AM   #13
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special shows are the shows for people like monty.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:28 AM   #14
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special shows are the shows for people like monty.
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=162414

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:41 AM   #15
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i can't wait to go
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:59 AM   #16
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Please stop insulting those children by comparing them to Monte.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:04 AM   #17
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He can't feel insulted, he can't understand what I say anyway..

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:20 AM   #18
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or SS
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:42 AM   #19
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Also, notice the tour dates show Kansas City, but the official site doesn't list KC.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:40 AM   #20
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WHY!? This is info that needs to be seen somewhere other than page 4 of the "No songs repeated on setlist" thread.
you seem to not "get the joke". don't have a "sense of humor". "hahah"

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:54 AM   #21
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What's interesting is that Billy's pretty much conirming that there will be at LEAST 41+ individual songs played this tour. Right?

-At least 20 different songs for Black Sunshine
-At least 20 different songs for White Crosses
-At least 1 song not played at the 2-night stands for the Special Shows

Couldn't ask for more, really.

I can't wait!

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:57 AM   #22
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God all he ever gave us was everything the bastard

I HATES BILLY CORGAN!

In these times of cutting back, I find his spoiling the audience with hundreds of songs insensitive. He should just play bullet over and over to remind us of the current world climate.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:07 AM   #23
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Air pollution... blues.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:11 AM   #24
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gimme gimmie gimmie gimmie gimme gimme gimme

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Old 09-25-2008, 10:12 AM   #25
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I HATES BILLY CORGAN!

In these times of cutting back, I find his spoiling the audience with hundreds of songs insensitive. He should just play bullet over and over to remind us of the current world climate.
man i hates him too skwisgaar!

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:14 AM   #26
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Strangely the only thing I think was confusing people was what "black sunshine" and "white crosses" indicated—meaningless names or description of content

And yet this is the one thing he does not address

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:15 AM   #27
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since he took the time to name each night rather than just say we're playing two shows and each one is different, i'd imagine they have some sort of descriptive purpose in terms of setlist composition.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:10 PM   #28
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mehhhhh I wouldn't doubt that Bill just named the nights for the hell of it. Though it will be nice for a night without Bullet being played.

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:16 PM   #29
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Though it will be nice for a night without Bullet being played.
i didn't even think about this! AWESOME!

 
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:28 PM   #30
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I have a feeling that:


-Black Sunshine = Gloomy, bitter, resentful songs, such as The Aeroplane Flies High, Zero, Quiet, Bullet, Stumbeline, Disarm, United States, Silverfuck, Love, Geek USA, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, and most of the Adore era's material

and

-White Crosses = Optimistic, yearning, hope-for-change songs, such as Untitled, Rocket, That's the Way My Love Is, By Starlight, To Sheila, Muzzle, Stand Inside Your Love, Porcelina, Winterlong, Sacred + Profane and Galapagos, and even For Martha, as sad as it is



I don't think one night will be loud and electric, and the other night soft and acoustic. Both nights could totally be pretty loud and rocking, but just in different energies.



Also, this juxtaposition of "themes" totally sums up the 20 years of the band, which is fitting. Their music has always been this dynamic sort of bitter and angry one moment, soft and angelic the next kind of thing.

 
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