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![]() After Cyr, I wasn't that excited for Atum; what I have heard is pretty disappointing. So what's next? There is no longer be any kind of hype or horizon for the band. I could imagine them putting out another dozen album recordings of diminishing returns over the next one or two decades. And it would all be more of the same in terms of engagement, interest, and defying (or disappointing?) expectations. What is there to look forward to? The chance of an Iha song or co-write? D'arcy returning? I think even these would be let downs. And there is simply no way that the Machina reissue won't underwhelm or even make us mad.
I just don't know anymore. Maybe it's time to move on. |
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![]() Are you breaking up with the band?
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![]() Oceania gave me the slightest glimmer of hope that they might be able to make something engaging in the future. It was far from great, but recording an album with an actual full band (not just Billy and friends) gave the music an energy that had not been present in a long time. Then Monuments to an Elegy more or less torpedoed that momentum. From then on, I have just accepted it a good thing if we get two or three great songs from each "cycle", and can enjoy that since James returned, they have become an excellent live act. The studio material definitely does not intrigue me in any way like it used to. Only thing I am truly holding out for is the 12/2/2000 Metro show. Once (if) that ever drops, I will likely be done with SP as more than a Monte-certified "casual fan".
I did almost entirely check out between that era where Brad Wilk and Mark Stoermer were in the band to Jimmy rejoining. At that point, it felt like whatever intentions Billy had in playing as Smashing Pumpkins again had long become unclear. In retrospect, it seemed he felt the same way. |
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![]() I'm still holding out for the shoegaze / psychedelic album.
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![]() I guess it is one of those days (or weeks) when I can't find any reason that I am still doing this.
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![]() I have absolutely no hope for the new music, but like discussing this fact with people on the internet, so I will remain here. I like the old material enough to keep having conversations about that, too. And gen chat.
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![]() Machina reissue
Metro video Zwan box set After that I’ll probably keep buying archive releases, but as for actively following the band… |
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![]() Machina Reissue
Zwan Box Set Billy's autobiography that he's been writing for 10 years FutureEmbrace reissue? Those are basically the only SP related things I care about. I dgaf about their new music, even though I've tried. Each new song sounds like soulless over-processed garbage. Their music actually makes me FEEL empty. Fuck that Beguilled riff too Chug chug chug chug chugga chug chug Chug chug chug chug bippty boo~ Fuck that riff and what this band has become. |
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I know when I go through spells of posting here day after day it ruins my mood for that whole time period. Usually happens when pumpkins have new music out or a tour happening. Like doesn’t it put y’all in a bad mood beating this dead horse over and over? I think nova fritz has it right, like move on if it’s giving you this much anger. It’s not worth yelling at a cloud for weeks on end. Jump down my throat over this but I’m asking an honest question. Even posting this as a question I already feel nauseous and I might shit my pants from the stress of it. |
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Janis Jopleybird
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This is generally the same for me; it helps to do my dumb little jokes and japes here and to see the same from other folks. I'd just add, and perhaps this is relevant to the other half of this response, that when I'm stressed as opposed to just depressed, I start getting aggressive here and that ain't helpin' nobody feel better, and I need to get better about recognizing I'm in that state before taking it out on folks. |
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Who was it, Coldplay that recently retired from making new music? But still touring? |
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Minion of Satan
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![]() Hmmm i stopped hoping for new “actual” SP music after James came back and the first single was fucken Solara. That was it, i realized right there the hope was dead. Ive listened to most of what has come out since, at least once, but nothing has stuck and i don’t ever go back to anything post 2000 unless it’s rare fit of morbid curiosity
That said, i continue to follow SP/big willie news b/c it is frequently hilarious and/or entertaining |
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Minion of Satan
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![]() it was time to move on 10 years ago
if you've made it this far, for fuck's sake, just sit back and enjoy the utterly bizarre, jawdropping, but largely entertaining ride that is WPC & Friends compete w/ Gen Z part 3.23242525 (starring Jeff Shreds & Hooky's Boy) |
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Minion of Satan
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![]() This is like when people decide to delete their Facebook but decide to announce it days before doing so.
No one cares, just move on without making a spectacle of it. Last edited by paranoid : 11-21-2022 at 07:07 PM. |
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![]() I would like to announce that I also intend to block Paranoid.
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Janis Jopleybird
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![]() You want to "move on," son? Do you not know where you are? Do you not understand why no one leaves? Do you remember your life before you got here? Do you remember what... you know... what happened to you that brought you here?
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![]() What special sort of hell is this?
I feel like I need a specific de-Corganization therapy so that I can finally move on. |
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![]() If SP was a new band I never heard of before, I would not listen to this crap.
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SP are just going further and further away from what I liked about them in the first place. They aren't even remotely similar sounding to what they were before. At least U2 are trying to get back to their "original" sound, but they are taking anything interesting away in the process. If SP had something interesting to bring to the table with new material, that'd be fair enough. But they don't. It's just harsh grey synth mush with Billy's worst voice sailing high on top. Not even a good drum sound to enjoy. |
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Socialphobic
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![]() Yet another grand exit....
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![]() You people.
Rather than making a grand exit, I am trying to articulate a real feeling of aimlessness/grief with the possibilities of SP for maybe the first time since the Iha reunion. If this is what a MCIS sequel sounds like then what the hell is left? Now that we know what ATUM is and the limits of Iha/Chamberlin contributions, I can't see any return to any sort of form I would care about. This and paranoid is a big crybaby. |
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At this point I’m just glad they’re still doing great shows. Honestly as an old fan I’d rather pay to see songs I’ve loved for years, so when it comes to new music I can’t expect much. Odd that other people get really up in arms about it, like to a point where they have to talk about it daily. Like seriously what did y’all expect? Mellon collie 2? Hahahahahahaha Crybaby calling me a crybaby. I fucking love it here. |
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Socialphobic
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![]() you made a thread.... that's a measurement of "grand" and attention seeking.
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What is a meh song that is God tire live? Best ATUM track for sucking dick? A return to porn??? best ATUM track for eating gash? |
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![]() if iha gets a song it will, for a fact, mark my words, have that SP1 magic
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