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Old 05-15-2023, 02:03 PM   #1
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Is this the best SP5 song?

Or is this the best SP song since 2000?

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:04 PM   #2
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Lol......come.on...it sounds like a demo...but good

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:04 PM   #3
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Lol......come.on...it sounds like a demo...but good
I don't see why a demo couldn't still be the best SP release in decades. we hate all the studio production

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:06 PM   #4
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It’s a good song, nothing more.

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:17 PM   #5
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still hold firmly to my theory that corgo realized it was a good one about halfway through the recording, and decided this particular heel-playing episode would be omitting any sort of bass track

hurray!

huzzah!

ropey lopey!

good song tho

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:25 PM   #6
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Was wondering if someone would make this thread. Easily top 5 post 2000. I’d wager maybe the best even.

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:56 PM   #7
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Old 05-15-2023, 03:00 PM   #8
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Old 05-15-2023, 03:38 PM   #9
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Is this the best SP5 song?

Or is this the best SP song since 2000?
yes to both

the whole record has this perfect cottagecore sorta thing that makes you forgive the shittiness

like the 'colors like honey' section in whichever song that was. that's VIBES right there

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 03:41 PM   #10
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It's in the top grouping. It's hard to pin down a definitive best, really. Nothing stands out as incredible. Magdalena is equal to about 5-7 others for me.

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 03:42 PM   #11
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I think Silvery Sometimes beats out Magdalena, though

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 04:07 PM   #12
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I really like it, yes it gave me a demo vibe but in a good way, and I think its great. Definitely a keeper.

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 04:22 PM   #13
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This song is Actually Good and is easily the best, most-Pumpkiny song put out under the Pumpkins name in the past 15 years.

 
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Old 05-15-2023, 04:31 PM   #14
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I would pay up to $10 of for the 7" with this, the First Good SP Song in the 21st Century, and Simmitar.

Then I can investigate the truth of the bass situation.

$10 Sad Machines!! 10 big ones. Think about it. PM me

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 05:52 AM   #15
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I did a quick master of Magdelena and Automaton, just to give them more presence a bit more bottom end. They sound nice, takes away that small mono sound and opens it out a bit.

Magdelena: https://voca.ro/11P9dQqJ0snr

Automaton: https://voca.ro/16y2LjIMbUpQ

I might do the whole thing for my own listening pleasure.

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Old 05-16-2023, 05:57 AM   #16
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i couldn't hear the bass in simmatar for a while but then i started to be able to kinda make it out. definitely a lack of bass presence across zodeon but it can be made out sometimes, sounds like he's generally playing on the higher strings doing kinda more melodic stuff than doing any low-end stuff.

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 05:59 AM   #17
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Bass on vinyl masters is always lower, so when you rip it and listen to a digital file, it'll seem like it's not there. I managed to bring it up a bit on the master above.

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 06:35 AM   #18
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This song is Actually Good and is easily the best, most-Pumpkiny song put out under the Pumpkins name in the past 15 years.
Fully agree. Completely maddening, a little hint to show it can be done still before the next quadruple album of 1930's inspired jazz Corgan classics

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 06:57 AM   #19
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Bass on vinyl masters is always lower, so when you rip it and listen to a digital file, it'll seem like it's not there. I managed to bring it up a bit on the master above.
this is true with the Podcast version of simmitar though, so it's the mix in general. if what you're saying is the case though it sounds like an issue with bad turntable or interface / gear. i'm still waiting for a lossless rip before i do any remastering work on it myself. i can't listen to this version without fecking focusing on the mp3 wateriness so it's helping me avoid wearing it thin haha

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 07:01 AM   #20
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Magdalena is great, Machina II vibes, Zwan on a roll, no Jeff in sight which is always a good thing etc...

But he decided to relegate it to a fucking 7” on the back of a limited-ed box so don't delude yourself, the ship sank, we're in SP hell

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 07:08 AM   #21
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By what he's said it seems like there is definitely a plan to finish the album. Y'know, just like all that other stuff he said he'd finish... But seriously though he must see the merit in these songs? I do expect to at least see some sort of digital release in the future

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 07:35 AM   #22
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He did see the "merit" in those other songs so no, he hasn't got a fuckin clue imo.

His idea of finishing a song these days is a wall of Casio synths ffs

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 08:25 AM   #23
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It’s the best thing I’ve done in years and it’s just sitting there on a shelf, in ZuZu’s, and you can’t afford it.

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:33 AM   #24
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This song is Actually Good and is easily the best, most-Pumpkiny song put out under the Pumpkins name in the past 15 years.
I agree....sounds easy....easy chords, easy drumming and best of all: bills croaky voice is buried in the mix......

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:36 AM   #25
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Funnily people on reddit say that atum sounds so much better on vinyl...

Fuck that,......shitty songs like where rain ..or hoooraaa stay shitty.....sick of these billy brown nosers in 2023

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:48 AM   #26
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Funnily people on reddit say that atum sounds so much better on vinyl...

Fuck that,......shitty songs like where rain ..or hoooraaa stay shitty.....sick of these billy brown nosers in 2023
When you've dropped $250 to $500 on the Atum vinyl set, of course you're gonna believe it sounds better.

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:57 AM   #27
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Magdalena is so boring

I rather listen to this...


 
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Old 05-16-2023, 11:59 AM   #28
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It’s the best thing I’ve done in years and it’s just sitting there on a shelf, in ZuZu’s, and you can’t afford it.
We called this as soon as Billy announced the extra album on the ZuZu's vinyl.

I'm getting a bit of a Zeitgeist b-sides feel (Stellar, Ma Belle), which is to say, one of the best Pumpkins songs of the last 15 years.

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 12:10 PM   #29
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I agree that Automaton is another one of the good ones. Saffon sounds like he was listening to Oh Yoko!

 
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Old 05-16-2023, 03:32 PM   #30
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Man I fucking love this song.

 
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