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Old 06-03-2023, 09:31 PM   #5101
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These dum-dums keep throwing around the phrase "cleaned up" but like what exactly needs to be cleaned up?

What actual changes need to be addressed?

What does "cleaned up" even mean????

 
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Old 06-03-2023, 09:35 PM   #5102
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Dum-Dums: MACHINA IS OVERPRODUCED AND IT RUINED THE SONGS

also the same Dum-Dums: MACHINA 2 NEEDS TO BE "FIXED" AND "CLEANED UP"

 
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:01 PM   #5103
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it's i guess muddy in a way, but it's not like i can't hear everything or can't enjoy the songs

i want more shit like strength in numbers, or some good live takes, pale scales, etc etc than 2020 remixes of classic tracks with a 'story' this time

 
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:05 PM   #5104
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james' lead at the end of vanity is peak SP

 
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:05 PM   #5105
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I want the version with crowd noises.

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 01:32 AM   #5106
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regardless of if they even touch the mixes, wouldn't it be the first time we actually got a direct master of Machina 2 instead of just someone's vinyl rip?

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 07:55 AM   #5107
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"Machina reissue a go", they said...

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 09:44 AM   #5108
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I think both machinas sound bad.
No pumpkins album past adore sounds good on a technical level.

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 10:15 AM   #5109
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I’m not betting on getting improved versions of anything… besides maybe that acoustic G&TGC in full instead of just cut off

Mostly hoping for unheard content but there prob won’t be much of that… also it’s not coming out anyway lmfao

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 10:29 AM   #5110
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what's the new release date?

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 10:52 AM   #5111
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Idk, I enjoy the Machina I treatment. I can see why people wouldn't like it, but I enjoy the muddy textures, and I like how so many parts are buried and almost inaudible. You can hear them enough to know they are good, but you really need to focus, and they make you feel wistful for something you can glimpse but never hold.

Machina II sounds like a pretty good demo or lo-fi album. I enjoy the sound too, and I wouldn't trade it for a final album-quality version, but I can see how the band would have made other production choices if they were actually releasing it officially.

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 12:48 PM   #5112
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Are they deleting the old Machina 2 tracks or something?

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 01:44 PM   #5113
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Are they deleting the old Machina 2 tracks or something?
Yes, every single copy in mp3, flac even the vinyls are gonna disappear in a puff of smoke when they release the reissue.

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 01:47 PM   #5114
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haha

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 03:24 PM   #5115
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I think both machinas sound bad.
No pumpkins album past adore sounds good on a technical level.
Damn, I think most of Machina I sounds pretty great - notably the "dreamier" stuff i.e. This Time (POSSIBLY my all time favorite SP song,) I of the Mourning, With Every Light, AoI but tbh I fuckin' love the "cybermetal" shit as well

it's the more middle of the road tunes that kinda suffer, and obv they botched a few songs that clearly exist in better forms either live or on other releases (or in the case of GatGC, straight-up unreleased!)

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 07:09 PM   #5116
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what's the new release date?
2045

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:25 AM   #5117
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2045
i was expecting 2069

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 01:24 AM   #5118
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I feel like billy attempted to write hits with the 'middle of the road' stuff.
billy doesn't know what a hit is.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 02:54 AM   #5119
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This Time (POSSIBLY my all time favorite SP song,)
christ FUCKING almighty this is peak riseofthefools madness!1!1!

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Old 06-05-2023, 04:08 AM   #5120
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look buddy you find yourself cryin' in a car when your life is borderline in shambles to a tune you find yourself "rubbing shoulders" just a little bit closer to it!

but no totally uh i meant Hummer or whatever other VERY original choice no one has chosen for a personal (keyword: personal) favorite song from this FUCKED up band howdy doody yeeha IHA!

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:11 AM   #5121
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This Time absolutely one of the best songs ever. Hummer absolutely one of the best songs. Roustabout killer track. Age of Innocence absolutely possibly the best song ever. Let’s all get along here folks.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:12 AM   #5122
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This Time absolutely one of the best songs ever. Hummer absolutely one of the best songs. Roustabout killer track. Age of Innocence absolutely possibly the best song ever. Let’s all get along here folks.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:17 AM   #5123
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I just felt like saying that twice!

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:30 AM   #5124
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This Time absolutely one of the best songs ever. Hummer absolutely one of the best songs. Roustabout killer track. Age of Innocence absolutely possibly the best song ever. Letís all get along here folks.
the fuck is going on

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:55 AM   #5125
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look buddy you find yourself cryin' in a car when your life is borderline in shambles to a tune you find yourself "rubbing shoulders" just a little bit closer to it!
That's exactly where i'm at right now after reading that thing about This Time

Better put on some Soco Amaretto Lime by Brand New before the day goes to shit, fuck! Shit! Shoot!

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 06:50 AM   #5126
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My favourite Pumpkins track is Ruby (Pit mix 3).

Absolutely one of the best songs ever written.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 07:06 AM   #5127
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My favourite Pumpkins track is Ruby (Pit mix 3).

Absolutely one of the best songs ever written.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 07:36 AM   #5128
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Better put on some Soco Amaretto Lime by Brand New before the day goes to shit, fuck! Shit! Shoot!
Wow these are some fighting words

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:02 AM   #5129
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Billy Corgan must have made some bad decisions (for the money) back in the 90s when he signed agreements with Virgin. I can't believe how little control, 23 years later, he has over these songs.

It also makes it all the more strange how they were able to get permission to release M2 for free back then (??)

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:11 AM   #5130
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Does anyone think it would matter if fans wrote letters to the record companies asking for release of Machina reissue?

 
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