Machina reissue a go - Page 20

Corgan's Bluff · 10-24-2018, 12:07 PM

Vasily Kafonov made several posts on Instagram over the last months reminding on his "Machina" artwork:

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#etching #machina#handprinted#handpainted#smashingpumpkins

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Okt 23, 2018 um 1:02 PDT

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This etchings going to privet collection today . . . . . . #smashingpumpkins #albumartwork #machina#privetcollection #etching #handpainted

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Okt 15, 2018 um 4:53 PDT

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#blastfromthepast #smashingpumpkins #sacredandprofanstour#2000”albumart#machina#

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Okt 7, 2018 um 12:16 PDT

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Blast from the past

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Sep 27, 2018 um 5:36 PDT

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Blast from the past. . . . . . #thesmashingpumpkins #smashingpumpkins #albumartwork #machina #paintings #canvaspainting

Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Sep 3, 2018 um 3:39 PDT

Not Smashing Pumpkins, but talking about greedy art dealers:

fishtower
#blast#from#the#past

degardart
nice, cool!

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@degardart thanks! Blast from the past, specially cool for my art dealer, he got enormous amounts after stilling from me almost for price of the canvas. I know the price as client contact me detect for the certificate or authenticity.. anyway thanks!

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#blast#from#the#past

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dustrocck · 10-24-2018, 12:18 PM

really loved the Machina artwork

VoxUpDoc · 12:26 PM

Interesting to hear all the movement on this and Billy praising the earlier recordings.

Machina has a much greater chance of striking a chord with re-appraisal than Adore.

Firstly, Machina has aged much better than adore, secondly plenty of the unreleased material is killer.

ButterflyBullet · 10-24-2018, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

incomplete and complete sbd recording of these two are out:
http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1999-04-12

First I've heard of a soundboard been out for this one

time to do some digging

paranoid · 10-24-2018, 12:46 PM

Honestly though machina artwork kind of sucked.

Mals Marola · 10-24-2018, 12:50 PM

Nnnnnaaaaaaaahhh

Nah

Just nah

FoolofaTook · 10-24-2018, 12:56 PM

there were some really good paintings. then there were some meh ones.

FoolofaTook · 10-24-2018, 12:57 PM

this one i really like:

smashingjj · 10-24-2018, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

Firstly, Machina has aged much better than adore

Corgan's Bluff · 10-24-2018, 01:07 PM

Did you just hang yourself? If you still like to talk about it...

Oklahoma Sexual · 10-24-2018, 01:14 PM

can someone ask him if resistance pro story lines will be reissued in the NWA? any chance of a DVD or similar release of the 2013 walter e. smith furniture commercial?

vajohna · 10-24-2018, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

Honestly though machina artwork kind of sucked.

houseofglass11 · 10-24-2018, 01:26 PM

Adore > Machina

Corgan's Bluff · 10-24-2018, 01:31 PM

Adore Machina

FoolofaTook · 10-24-2018, 01:33 PM

4 real. but just to confirm i made a thread with a poll

VoxUpDoc · 10-24-2018, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashingjj

Adore is legit an album teenage goths sit and cry to.

It’s a bad album.

Ihaguitar · 10-24-2018, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

Honestly though machina artwork kind of sucked.

Same here. I hated the whole concept thing behind the project.

Mals Marola · 10-24-2018, 02:36 PM

I don't give a fuck about the concept but the art is beautiful

VoxUpDoc · 10-24-2018, 02:49 PM

And Adore SOUNDS like a late 90’s rock band trying to do electronica pre-Kid A. As well as being long and boring for the most part.

Mals Marola · 10-24-2018, 02:56 PM

It doesn't though. If you heard Adore without any context of who The Pumpkins were or had been before, your first thought would be "man this band should stick to the rock music they're so clearly hiding under all this electronica!"

It was an incredibly smooth transition sonically regardless of how much you like or dislike the album. Now End is The Beginning, that fits yer description (tho i love the shit out of it)

MonumentsRocks · 10-24-2018, 03:05 PM

This cover looks like dog shit you just slipped on:

But this I like, the repetition in the design fits with the repetition in a lot of the tracks. It looks like the product of some mechanical printing press. The imperfectness matches with the fuzzed out, bad reception sound of the album, and it suggests tension between people and technology. I could go on, but ultimately it speaks for itself.

Elphenor · 10-24-2018, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

Adore is legit an album teenage goths sit and cry to.

It’s a bad album.

it's considerably more mature than the previous album

THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE

VoxUpDoc · 10-24-2018, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonumentsRocks

But this I like, the repetition in the design fits with the repetition in a lot of the tracks. It looks like the product of some mechanical printing press. The imperfectness matches with the fuzzed out, bad reception sound of the album, and it suggests tension between people and technology. I could go on, but ultimately it speaks for itself.

Agreed.

The Machina 2 art looked contemporary, whilst the Machina art looked like dungeons and dragons.

apathy · 10-24-2018, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

And Adore SOUNDS like a late 90’s rock band trying to do electronica pre-Kid A. As well as being long and boring for the most part.

Judging Adore based upon meh drum machine tracks is like judging Machina based upon it's mix. Sure, that makes sense in some vein, but the songs themselves are beautiful songs (for the most part) in and of themselves.

VoxUpDoc · 10-24-2018, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor

it's considerably more mature than the previous album

THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE

I’m only fooling around, I like Adore in it’s own way, it’s just one note the whole way.

MCIS maybe less subtle but Adore wasn’t a maturation from it.

Elphenor · 10-24-2018, 03:14 PM

Oh well nvm

Shadaloo · 10-24-2018, 03:20 PM

FWIW Adore was a relatively early example of Billy's writing verging on poetry and unlike later works, it's mostly intelligible and comes across beautiful at times. I don't like comparing Adore to prior albums because it's its own beast, but Behold! The Night Mare has probably some of my favorite lyrics he ever penned.

redbreegull · 10-24-2018, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

FWIW Adore was a relatively early example of Billy's writing verging on poetry and unlike later works, it's mostly intelligible and comes across beautiful at times. I don't like comparing Adore to prior albums because it's its own beast, but Behold! The Night Mare has probably some of my favorite lyrics he ever penned.

yes

houseofglass11 · 10-24-2018, 03:36 PM

Machina = hamfisted attempt to recapture the rawk. Jimmy should have stayed gone.

amoergosum · 10-24-2018, 04:10 PM

10-24-2018, 12:07 PM	#571
Corgan's Bluff Minion of Satan Location: Travelling between Ukraine and Russia Posts: 5,357	Vasily Kafonov made several posts on Instagram over the last months reminding on his "Machina" artwork: Sieh dir diesen Beitrag auf Instagram an #etching #machina#handprinted#handpainted#smashingpumpkins Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Okt 23, 2018 um 1:02 PDT Sieh dir diesen Beitrag auf Instagram an This etchings going to privet collection today . . . . . . #smashingpumpkins #albumartwork #machina#privetcollection #etching #handpainted Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Okt 15, 2018 um 4:53 PDT Sieh dir diesen Beitrag auf Instagram an #blastfromthepast #smashingpumpkins #sacredandprofanstour#2000”albumart#machina# Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Okt 7, 2018 um 12:16 PDT Sieh dir diesen Beitrag auf Instagram an Blast from the past Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Sep 27, 2018 um 5:36 PDT Sieh dir diesen Beitrag auf Instagram an Blast from the past. . . . . . #thesmashingpumpkins #smashingpumpkins #albumartwork #machina #paintings #canvaspainting Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Sep 3, 2018 um 3:39 PDT Not Smashing Pumpkins, but talking about greedy art dealers: fishtower #blast#from#the#past degardart nice, cool! fishtower @degardart thanks! Blast from the past, specially cool for my art dealer, he got enormous amounts after stilling from me almost for price of the canvas. I know the price as client contact me detect for the certificate or authenticity.. anyway thanks! Sieh dir diesen Beitrag auf Instagram an #blast#from#the#past Ein Beitrag geteilt von Vasily Kafanov (@fishtower) am Aug 29, 2018 um 4:13 PDT

10-24-2018, 12:20 PM	#573
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,881	Interesting to hear all the movement on this and Billy praising the earlier recordings. Machina has a much greater chance of striking a chord with re-appraisal than Adore. Firstly, Machina has aged much better than adore, secondly plenty of the unreleased material is killer. Last edited by VoxUpDoc : 10-24-2018 at 12:26 PM.

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10-24-2018, 12:18 PM	#572
dustrocck Demi-God Posts: 494	really loved the Machina artwork

10-24-2018, 12:46 PM	#575
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	Honestly though machina artwork kind of sucked.

10-24-2018, 12:50 PM	#576
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	Nnnnnaaaaaaaahhh Nah Just nah

10-24-2018, 12:56 PM	#577
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	there were some really good paintings. then there were some meh ones.

10-24-2018, 12:57 PM	#578
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	this one i really like:

10-24-2018, 01:07 PM	#580
Corgan's Bluff Minion of Satan Location: Travelling between Ukraine and Russia Posts: 5,357	Did you just hang yourself? If you still like to talk about it...

10-24-2018, 01:14 PM	#581
Oklahoma Sexual Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,612	can someone ask him if resistance pro story lines will be reissued in the NWA? any chance of a DVD or similar release of the 2013 walter e. smith furniture commercial?

10-24-2018, 01:26 PM	#583
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,690	Adore > Machina

10-24-2018, 01:31 PM	#584
Corgan's Bluff Minion of Satan Location: Travelling between Ukraine and Russia Posts: 5,357	Adore Machina

10-24-2018, 01:33 PM	#585
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	4 real. but just to confirm i made a thread with a poll

10-24-2018, 02:36 PM	#588
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	I don't give a fuck about the concept but the art is beautiful

10-24-2018, 02:49 PM	#589
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,881	And Adore SOUNDS like a late 90’s rock band trying to do electronica pre-Kid A. As well as being long and boring for the most part.

10-24-2018, 02:56 PM	#590
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	It doesn't though. If you heard Adore without any context of who The Pumpkins were or had been before, your first thought would be "man this band should stick to the rock music they're so clearly hiding under all this electronica!" It was an incredibly smooth transition sonically regardless of how much you like or dislike the album. Now End is The Beginning, that fits yer description (tho i love the shit out of it)

10-24-2018, 03:05 PM	#591
MonumentsRocks Ownz Posts: 633	This cover looks like dog shit you just slipped on: But this I like, the repetition in the design fits with the repetition in a lot of the tracks. It looks like the product of some mechanical printing press. The imperfectness matches with the fuzzed out, bad reception sound of the album, and it suggests tension between people and technology. I could go on, but ultimately it speaks for itself.

10-24-2018, 03:14 PM	#596
Elphenor Braindead Location: TX Posts: 16,289	Oh well nvm

10-24-2018, 03:20 PM	#597
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	FWIW Adore was a relatively early example of Billy's writing verging on poetry and unlike later works, it's mostly intelligible and comes across beautiful at times. I don't like comparing Adore to prior albums because it's its own beast, but Behold! The Night Mare has probably some of my favorite lyrics he ever penned.

10-24-2018, 03:36 PM	#599
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,690	Machina = hamfisted attempt to recapture the rawk. Jimmy should have stayed gone.

10-24-2018, 04:10 PM	#600
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014