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Old 09-08-2022, 11:52 AM   #4861
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I can't tell sometimes if I have never heard these versions or if I just heard them 15 years ago and then forget about them. Is this from the FAEOMM tape? Or do we need to call the FBI?

 
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:36 PM   #4862
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that was from the set of l 3 3 k s @ 5 (?) years ago that was speculated to come from m 0 n + 3

 
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:37 PM   #4863
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we're not supposed to talk about it because it freaked everyone out

 
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:38 PM   #4864
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billy was BIG MAD

 
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:39 PM   #4865
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:42 PM   #4866
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I think I'm giving up on this reissue.
it's coming i swear!!!!

 
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:55 PM   #4867
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flac private link ?
Doesn't exist, was leaked in mp3 form, no version circulating I'm aware of that's not cut off at the end.

Anyone to whom this is new really needs to get their hands on the stuff that leaked from 2014-2016:

\20100426\01 Raindrops and Sunshowers.mp3 (1:39)
\20100426\02 Blue Skies Bring Tears.mp3 (2:25)
\20100426\03 I Am One.mp3 (4:13)
\20100426\04 Zero.mp3 (2:58)
\20100426\05 Pug.mp3 (4:38)
\20100426\06 La Dolly Vita.mp3 (4:52)
\20100426\07 Glass' Theme.mp3 (1:54)
\20100426\08 The Imploding Voice.mp3 (4:37)
\20100426\09 Dross.mp3 (3:48)
\20100426\10 Speed Kills.mp3 (5:17)
\20100426\11 Blue Skies Bring Tears.mp3 (5:22)
\20100426\12 Stand Inside Your Love.mp3 (3:57)
\20100426\13 Glass and the Ghost Children.mp3 (10:57)
\20100426\14 Wound.mp3 (4:23)
\20100426\15 Cash Car Star.mp3 (3:44)
\20100426\16 Ava Adore.mp3 (5:53)
\20100426\17 Today.mp3 (4:7)
\20100426\18 (encore call).mp3 (3:57)
\20100426\19 Muzzle.mp3 (4:18)
\20100426\20 Soma.mp3 (7:8)
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Subject: 2010/04/26

alternate Raindrops + Sunshowers (studio, cut)
alternate Blue Skies Bring Tears (studio, cut)

1999/04/12 Cincinnati The Arising!
soundboard, all tracks except: Wound, Home, If There Is a God, With Every Light, Geek U.S.A.
and Soma is cut
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\20100629\1\01 Without You.mp3 (3:41)
\20100629\1\02 Sleeping Giant.mp3 (3:47)
\20100629\1\03 Raindrops and Sunshowers.mp3 (4:31)
\20100629\1\04 Glass and the Ghost Children.mp3 (5:42)
\20100629\1\05 Home.mp3 (3:42)
\20100629\1\06 Home (instrumental).mp3 (2:22)
\20100629\1\07 Rocket.mp3 (2:44)
\20100629\1\08 skipping about.mp3 (1:48)
\20100629\1\09 Identify.mp3 (4:32)
\20100629\1\10 song from 1999 that starts just like Tarantula does.mp3 (1:36)
\20100629\1\11 Without You.mp3 (2:36)
\20100629\1\12 I Am One.mp3 (5:21)
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2010/06/29_#1

Without You (full band Machina era)
Sleeping Giant (Machina era)
Raindrops + Sunshowers
Glass and the Ghost Children (cut)
Home (band)
Home (synth) (cut) ---ends about 24:10
Rocket (live Metro 1991/12/31) (cut)
a bunch of skipping
Identify
song from 1999 that starts just like Tarantula (cut)
Without You (cut)
I Am One (live, Arising - Detroit)
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\20100629\2\01 Asheville soundcheck.mp3 (12:43)
\20100629\2\02 unknown (Strength in Numbers).mp3 (2:46)
---
2010/06/29_#2

track 1:
end of something (Asheville soundcheck)
Cherry (Asheville soundcheck)
Crush (Asheville soundcheck)
Frail and Bedazzled (Asheville soundcheck)
Fuck You (Asheville soundcheck) (cut)
Heavy Metal Machine (Asheville soundcheck) (cut)

track 2:
(unknown)/"Strength in Numbers" (studio) (cut)
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\20101023\01 Owata.mp3 (0:26)
\20101023\02 Cottonwood Symphony.mp3 (3:13)
\20101023\03 unknown (The Rite of Spring).mp3 (1:50)
\20101023\04 In the Arms of Sheep.mp3 (4:9)
\20101023\05 skipping.mp3 (0:7)
\20101023\06 One and Two.mp3 (4:12)
\20101023\07 Muzzle.mp3 (3:59)
\20101023\08 Knuckles.mp3 (3:13)
\20101023\09 In the Arms of Sheep.mp3 (3:59)
\20101023\10 Envelope Woman.mp3 (9:0)
\20101023\11 XYU.mp3 (8:3)
\20101023\12 Cupid de Locke.mp3 (2:38)
\20101023\13 Where Boys Fear to Tread.mp3 (4:37)
\20101023\14 Envelope Woman.mp3 (6:22)
\20101023\15 The Tracer.mp3 (10:46)
\20101023\16 XYU.mp3 (3:2)
---
Owata (Wells Street Demos track 1) (cut)
Cottonwood Symphony (Wells Street Demos track 6)
unknown/"The Rite of Spring" (Wells Street Demos track 4) (cut)
In the Arms of Sheep
skipping
One and Two (BC vocal)
Muzzle
Knuckles
In the Arms of Sheep (same take)
Envelope Woman (take 1)
X.Y.U. (take 1)
Cupid de Locke (instrumental)
Where Boys Fear to Tread
Envelope Woman (take 2)
The Tracer
X.Y.U. (take 2) (cut)
---
\preArchive\1_01 Black Irish.mp3 (0:15)
\preArchive\1_03 Loki Cat.mp3 (4:20)
\preArchive\1_08 El Sol.mp3 (3:47)
\preArchive\1_09 Columbus.mp3 (2:33)
\preArchive\1_25 The World's Fair.mp3 (2:27)
\preArchive\3_01 (skipping), B-L-O-W M-E.mp3 (1:18)
\preArchive\3_02 Surrender.mp3 (6:36)
\preArchive\3_03 I Want You to Want Me.mp3 (3:32)

 
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Old 09-08-2022, 07:11 PM   #4868
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I think I'm giving up on this reissue.
Being now just a casual fan of the band:

What are the latest excuses of William Patrick Corgan for the decades of delay of the MACHINA reissue?
The story of the problems with the production of the vinyl records version due to the increased order situation at the pressing plants must be already a year old...
I guess Universal is more interested today in the release of the vinyls of the next Beatles reissue?


 
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Old 09-08-2022, 11:41 PM   #4869
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That version of GATGC has definite Adore vibes. Maybe in an alternate timeline they doubled down on the Adore aesthetic and made another album like it.
machina is obviously a continuation of adore,,, the best material from machina era could all be on adore with the exception of everlasting gaze i guess

 
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Old 09-09-2022, 12:00 AM   #4870
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which we on Netphoria call The Everlasting Gays since it sucks cock [but still better than anything off of Shinys or Cyr]

 
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Old 09-09-2022, 01:57 PM   #4871
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beguiled coming out september 20 yet still no news on machina reissue

 
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Old 09-09-2022, 01:58 PM   #4872
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Yes, I am waiting
In silence throne
To fill the meetings
To strike me down
No more a reason
Than god above
Let your curses run
Yes, I am waiting
For your expanded, reimagined reissue

 
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:41 PM   #4873
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beguiled but i'm still wild
trapped betwixt the myriad spires
had a wife and had a child
alas find myself setting fires

i play the chords i knew best
i put on my sacred dress

beguiled

beguiled

 
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Old 09-09-2022, 08:08 PM   #4874
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ooooooohhhhhhhhh

beguiled of mine!

 
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Old 09-15-2022, 02:07 PM   #4875
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Being now just a casual fan of the band:

What are the latest excuses of William Patrick Corgan for the decades of delay of the MACHINA reissue?
The story of the problems with the production of the vinyl records version due to the increased order situation at the pressing plants must be already a year old...
I guess Universal is more interested today in the release of the vinyls of the next Beatles reissue?

Imagine actually wanting a Machina box instead of a Revolver box.

Yikes.

 
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:35 PM   #4876
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aren't there enough Beatles box sets?

 
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:39 PM   #4877
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Imagine actually wanting a Machina box instead of a Revolver box.

Yikes.
The new mix of taxman is really really bad

Like so shockingly bad I canít believe it was approved

 
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:47 PM   #4878
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Hang on till you hear the new mix of SIYL!

 
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:53 PM   #4879
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Hang on till you hear the new mix of SIYL!
yeah its gonna be complete ass most likely... the machina reissue will only be good to piece together with the vanilla versions of Machina and Machina II

 
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Old 09-17-2022, 10:14 AM   #4880
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yoooo this is A+

machina era pumpkins were so in the zone
lol at people shitting themselves over this.

The album track is about as good as this song ever got - the "Glass" bit anyway, before the spoken interlude + the overly fuzzed final section.

What's so great about this? It sounds exactly like you'd imagine an acoustic version would sound i.e. it's OK.

There's a lot wrong with Machina, but the first half of this song is not one of them.

 
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Old 09-17-2022, 10:53 AM   #4881
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If machina reissue never releases at least we are spared from hearing 2018 jimmy playing a really simple beat over white spider

 
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Old 09-17-2022, 11:03 AM   #4882
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What's so great about this? It sounds exactly like you'd imagine an acoustic version would sound
it's not that at all, we've had a version like that for years and this is something completely different - more in line with certain non-album SD tracks or the BSBT alternate version than the alb version. which is cool & probably fits the album as we know it better, but hearing the 3 (4?) of them just laying back & playing such an atmospheric & understated version of this otherwise (to use one of Father Patrick's favorite words of all time) grandiose beast I would say warrants the reaction

 
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:40 PM   #4883
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lol at people shitting themselves over this.

The album track is about as good as this song ever got - the "Glass" bit anyway, before the spoken interlude + the overly fuzzed final section.

What's so great about this? It sounds exactly like you'd imagine an acoustic version would sound i.e. it's OK.

There's a lot wrong with Machina, but the first half of this song is not one of them.
yea lol it literally sounds like every acoustic version they ever played of it

 
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Old 09-18-2022, 02:16 AM   #4884
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lol at people shitting themselves over this.

The album track is about as good as this song ever got - the "Glass" bit anyway, before the spoken interlude + the overly fuzzed final section.

What's so great about this? It sounds exactly like you'd imagine an acoustic version would sound i.e. it's OK.

There's a lot wrong with Machina, but the first half of this song is not one of them.
1. The spoken interlude + fuzzed out outro is my favorite part of the song so go easy buddy

2. Arising era pumpkins in particular was great you could really hear every member's personal flair coming through so clearly. Yeah this sounds like an arrangement that could have been played on any given show of the era, but -

3. I just liked the fidelity of this version. Every instrument sounds very defined and the drums have a pristine jazz tone you don't usually hear on SP recordings. Beautiful tape sound before it gets squashed and brightened up in mastering. This is what Pumpkins sounded like when they record like Duster

 
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Old 09-18-2022, 02:19 AM   #4885
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Old 09-18-2022, 04:38 AM   #4886
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How Smashing Pumpkins still has fans I'll never know.

 
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Old 09-18-2022, 04:38 AM   #4887
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How Smashing Pumpkins still has fans I'll never know.

 
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Old 09-18-2022, 11:46 AM   #4888
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say it a third time it might sound less stupid

 
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Old 09-18-2022, 05:58 PM   #4889
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Lol

you done got clowned, Funs

 
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