Machina reissue a go

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

I've asked him if M2 was supposed to sound that dirty or is it due to the vinyl transfer we got.
+ if there are more GATMOG remixes and if they will be part of the reissue.

It's clearly mixed to sound like that and has fuck all to do with the medium.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

Definite remix of everything needed. Only a handful of Machina I tracks sound good as they are (TEG, SIYL, AOI for example).

Machina 2 tracks defo need a remix - Slow Dawn for example, sounds like a live in studio demo.

SIYL has one of Billys worst loud at any volume ear splitting clipped distortions in it.

[Oklahoma Sexual]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

At the very least we're getting more concrete updates than what we got from Frank Rat Bastard Announcement of an Announcement Newsletter Quinto

updates that come from b'arcy himself are arguably worse and less "concrete"

[slayed23]

Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?

[Corgan's Bluff]

Offensive towards D'arcy...

[Oklahoma Sexual]

Originally Posted by slayed23

Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?

you brought it up, so you tell me

[FoolofaTook]

can it be both

?

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize

Corgan has said that M2 was all just rough mixes, what he had lying around, put on wax

Right, yes, of course, obviously, thanks!

AND YET my point stands: a remix is not going to change the distortion or wetness on the raw audio, all remixing gets you, at bottom, is a chance to pan and eq differently, whereas dummies are acting like, suddenly, mii is gonna sound like Siamese Dream

Do you nerds really not know the difference b/w engineering and mixing

[Shadaloo]

"Original mixes" AKA very probably not the stuff you're hearing on MI or MII for that matter.

Remember how BSBT came out on MI and everyone said it sounded like shit on the album? Asking why it was all slowed down and overproduced in comparison to the Arising! Version?

The point of this thing isn't to remaster MI and MII and put them out exactly as they were over again, he's talking about stuff like the FAEOMM version of BSBT - AKA the Arising version. Or stuff like the leaked versions of GATMOG or Home.

Guy said it was going to be "very different". If original versions of MI or MII show up they'll be bonus discs, which is what's being argued about now really.

[houseofglass11]

Machina 2 could easily be cleaned up in the studio. Tape distortion and such could have been applied to the mix as a whole. Who’s to say that the individual raw tracks aren’t unclipped.

[soniclovenoize]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Right, yes, of course, obviously, thanks!

No problem, glad I could help solve some of your confusion.

[DemonUnicorns]

Rinse, repeat

[toase]

embrace the frustration
welcome the letdown
amem

[FoolofaTook]

[BurtSampson]

Originally Posted by slayed23

Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?

"tell me how to feel about things because I can't make judgments on my own"

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by slayed23

Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?

Do you know where you are?

[FoolofaTook]

YOU"RE IN THE JUNGLE BABY

[FoolofaTook]

[toase]

Girl look how orange you fucking look girl

[bright_doom]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

does someone still have the original planned schedule of the reissues?

I can't remember what timeframe was announced, Gish came out November 2011.

Just wondering if it's been 4 or even more years now of checking in for this damn thing.


welp. time flies.

This was the original announcement, April 26 2011.

[bright_doom]

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Sexual

in related news filed under "things that will never happen", the metro DVD will be released to a couple hundred fans who no longer own DVD players

You can still play DVDs on Blu-Ray players.

[jommyfive]

[toase]

this person knows about stuff

[toase]

fuck you Grox

[edited]

[vajohna]

Wonder if the live Machina era stuff will sound like Rock On and Pale Scales from the videos DVD being as those were essentially live recordings

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

I think Machina II sounds fine

SP fans are spoiled.

perhaps the same can't really be said about Machina I, arguably, but i think M2 sounds great for what it is, and I for one would not want new, sparkling, revisionist mixes.

slick, remixed, cleaned up, rerecorded =/= better sound (not necessarily at least)

more than i'm excited about this reissue, i am curious, in a "get a glimpse behind the scenes" kinda way

[Rider]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Machina 2 could easily be cleaned up in the studio. Tape distortion and such could have been applied to the mix as a whole. Who’s to say that the individual raw tracks aren’t unclipped.

Name a time Billy has made something sound better.

[jommyfive]

Originally Posted by Rider

Name a time Billy has made something sound better.

Siamese Dream sounds better than anything ever made by Smashmouth

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

i think M2 sounds great for what it is, and I for one would not want new, sparkling, revisionist mixes.

So you hope the reissue includes exactly the same recordings you’ve already possessed for 17 years.

MAKES SHENSHE!! Dum dum.

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by jommyfive

Siamese Dream sounds better than anything ever made by Smashmouth

Clay, is that you?