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05-09-2014, 01:59 PM | #301 |
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I never gave a shit about her so this ain't a 180. Good riddance to her too
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05-09-2014, 02:01 PM | #302 |
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05-09-2014, 02:02 PM | #303 |
Shut the fuck up!
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Of all the people bills had in and out of the band she's one of the most down to earth and approachable.
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05-09-2014, 02:03 PM | #304 |
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Nothing to go on about if im getting rubbed the wrong way
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05-09-2014, 02:05 PM | #305 |
Shut the fuck up!
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Could you describe the nature of the rubbing
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05-09-2014, 02:05 PM | #306 |
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It isn't specifically about you but trust me it is true. The fans who just followed billy's build up of nicole and mike and regurgitated it are dizzy, unable to figure out exactly what to say now, probably wondering if they should stop following them.
Imagine if Billy flames them, imagine how those people will have to go back on their "love" of those two! Hahaha! |
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05-09-2014, 02:09 PM | #307 |
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Nicole has known she has been out of SP but to sell her garbage she kept up the farce. That is a reason to be rubbed the wrong way. Also, how about how she goes on and on about gay rights issues BUT behind the scenes tells people she is going to continue to support monte because free publicity is good! There are emails to prove this which I can't release!
Fakest of fake, which is why when Billy got rid of her he gushed about D'arcy. |
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05-09-2014, 02:11 PM | #308 |
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05-09-2014, 02:16 PM | #309 | |
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05-09-2014, 02:31 PM | #310 | |
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When exactly did BC get rid of her? |
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05-09-2014, 02:37 PM | #311 |
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I really don't see what the problem is. She was in SP for a several years. If Billy can use the SP name to sell wrestling and tea then I don't see why Nicole can't use the SP name to sell equipment she used while she with the band.
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05-09-2014, 02:41 PM | #312 |
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There is no proof of when. But she stopped supporting sp online since fall of 2013. The last tour ended badly, no one knows why he got so upset. But his gushing about d'arcy and even saying something nice about james is similar to the end of zwan.
I felt there was an issue between Billy and Nicole when he asked her to do the bass solo on tour and she refused. He stated he could and then he did on her bass. That came across as him outing her as not being as spectacular as was sold to us. Where are the melodic basslines like oceania on C&L's records? My thoughts are that Billy coached her and she became ungreatful. This is not to say billy wasn't shitty, most likely he was jealous that she was so popular. Her name yelled more than his. Nicole worked the fan bass. |
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05-09-2014, 02:42 PM | #313 |
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I don't see an issue with her selling her SP basses as SP basses either.
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05-09-2014, 02:48 PM | #314 |
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This band is iike a fucking episode of Degrassi. It must kill Billy that Pearl Jam doesn't have this kind of bullshit drama and revolving door of talent and they can still sell out arenas.
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05-09-2014, 02:51 PM | #315 |
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I don't think Billy knows how to function without drama. If there isn't any, he'll just find a way to create some. He's like the male version of Courtney Love.
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05-09-2014, 02:55 PM | #316 |
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All in all, with all the shit I am saying. Nicole isn't a total horrible person, she just needs her new band to succeed and put that above a lot of other things. That isn't abnormal or that bad. She does exploit fans but behind the scenes, she has more fans doing free stuff for her than corgan does but she doesn't have the money corgan does. She is a good player and I like oceania.
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05-09-2014, 02:56 PM | #317 |
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At this point most of the drama is fan speculation
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05-09-2014, 03:00 PM | #318 |
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05-09-2014, 03:02 PM | #319 |
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Nope, she has told people at the end of the 2013 tour there was a lot of negativity in the band.
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05-09-2014, 03:11 PM | #320 |
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And you're surprised by that?
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05-09-2014, 03:11 PM | #321 | |
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I guess it was immediately before Adore that he decided to take voice lessons? I imagine because he was frustrated with his lack of control/consistency especially with live vocals which though not always tuneful worked fine for a live situation imo Adore and Machina both demonstrate some of this new tightness but to a much less exaggerated degree. I can't listen to Zwan vocals either (I didn't like most of those songs anyway) but there were still some glimpses of his voice relaxing. TFE is where it's pretty much cemented into where he is now, but the production on that album (as opposed to Zeitgeist especially) and the style of the songs made it kinda okay. Zeitgeist on, the vocals have basically destroyed my ability to enjoy Billy's music, sadly. Slap some better vocals on Zeitgeist and I'd probably still have it in rotation |
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05-09-2014, 03:20 PM | #322 |
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05-09-2014, 03:33 PM | #323 |
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05-09-2014, 03:46 PM | #324 |
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I'd gladly listen to 8 hours of Eddie on ukulele than 5 minutes of whatever that thing Billy did at Madame ZuZus was.
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05-09-2014, 04:08 PM | #326 |
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05-09-2014, 04:11 PM | #327 |
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I was merely referencing ukulele because of the title of his solo album "Ukulele Songs" (which is actually not bad.)
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05-09-2014, 04:15 PM | #329 |
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I'm so conflicted - Mike has riled me so much over the past few years that Tommy Lee drumming for the Smashing Pumpkins seems like a good thing.
Imagine Tommy Lee joining the band at any other point in it's history. It's just ridiculous. But I'm at a point where he, in some twisted way, seems like a viable choice... You can't replace Jimmy, but in a sense you can replace some of the individual facets of playing that define SP I mean. The proof will be in who Billy gets for the next record - if he goes for another niche drumming style - I guess he either can't find one of the great "all rounders" who will accept the gig, or this is how he actually wants to move forward. But If Tommy Lee is the new SP drummer who is going to go out and play the old shit - boy oh boy we're in trouble ~again~... |
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