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02-27-2008, 01:45 AM | #181 |
Minion of Satan
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don't take monte seriously. please.
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02-27-2008, 01:47 AM | #182 |
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And I'll join the choir about people taking this vid way too seriously.
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02-27-2008, 01:49 AM | #183 |
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why don't you actually respond to that skipgo?
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02-27-2008, 01:49 AM | #184 |
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02-27-2008, 01:50 AM | #185 | |
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they suck for the pumpkins, hands down. yes technically jeff is a great guitarist, but he's just another stock guitar player who learned the techniques and tricks appropriate for the rock and roll vocabulary. i can think of about 30 guitar players in my local area alone that can play just as well or better than him. Technically a better player than james, yes, but definately not as unique and definately does not have the same kind of energy james had, creatively and performance wise. the difference between jeff and james technique wise---> jeff can execute fast pentatonic licks faster and cleaner than james ever could.. and in the current live situation it gets annoying having two guitarist jus shred away aimlessly. james lack of technique forced him to focus more on melodi ideas, and effect laden wall of sounds that i felt created a better balance to billy's shredding chaos. Billy and James seemed to commincate better on a musical level, at least before things went sour. ginger just doesnt cut it. ive heard her blunder shit up a numerous amount of times and the energy, again, is lacking. with a drummer like jimmy, the band needs a tighter, more energetic bassist to fill out the monstrous potential the rhythm section of this band could have.. billy does fine w/ ass parts in the studio, and i think blly mohler would have been a perfect fit for the live band. i will say this, they sound fine on the new material (stellar sounds terrific).. but that's becase the old sp hadn't played on the old material, so there's nothing to compare it to. but tunes like porcelina, wbftt, sound flat and dry. billy's weaking vocals dont help this out either. |
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02-27-2008, 01:51 AM | #186 |
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they cranked out a video for a b side and you tools are writing essays on netphoria about it.
yeah, corgan's the one that should be embarrassed |
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02-27-2008, 01:51 AM | #187 |
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i agree; the video is nothing to write home about, but it's nothing to get all worked up over, either. I'm far more interested in the song than the video.
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02-27-2008, 01:53 AM | #188 |
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02-27-2008, 01:53 AM | #189 |
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02-27-2008, 01:57 AM | #190 |
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02-27-2008, 01:57 AM | #191 |
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02-27-2008, 01:59 AM | #192 |
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i mean damn, where were the squeeling whammy guitar parts for wbftt that james plays that made the song that much more kick ass? jeff just doubled the riff during the recent tour.
WBFTT 1996> WBFTT 2007 |
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02-27-2008, 02:00 AM | #193 |
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Hey guys, I think the hippies symbolize that those guys are friends of billy's.
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02-27-2008, 02:01 AM | #194 | |
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but seriously, i respect the opinion of jjbjjbjjb far more than that of mr. gorilla suit. Maybe because monte acts like such a self-important prick every time i see him post. |
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02-27-2008, 02:01 AM | #195 |
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If Corgan is going to have to give an extensive quote on the meaning/whatever associated with this video in order to make some people here happy then this forum has truly gotten silly. Jesus Christ, everyone lighten up.
and quick comment: musician-wise, Ginger and Jeff are as technically proficient/talented as James and D'arcy. And quite frankly I have no idea how this debate got into one about this video. |
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02-27-2008, 02:04 AM | #196 |
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02-27-2008, 02:05 AM | #197 |
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i brought it up because someone mentioned that jeff and ginger should be in the video and i stated that i dont give a flying fuck about those two.
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02-27-2008, 02:05 AM | #198 |
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02-27-2008, 02:06 AM | #199 |
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02-27-2008, 02:07 AM | #200 |
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02-27-2008, 02:08 AM | #201 |
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02-27-2008, 02:08 AM | #202 |
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02-27-2008, 02:09 AM | #203 | |
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Last edited by Starla : 02-27-2008 at 02:53 AM. |
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02-27-2008, 02:09 AM | #204 |
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02-27-2008, 02:13 AM | #205 |
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Jimmy's drumming is really the only thing that makes this video worth watching.
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02-27-2008, 02:14 AM | #206 |
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I don't understand what the problem is. Did you guys expect some big statement or concept? I will agree, the amount of time given to the Seeds guy got way out of hand; but given that this is a non-album track, they didn't need to make it grandiose. Not everything that the band produces has to be scrutinized. The band is there to create great music, not great music videos. It appears that videos aren't an importance to them.
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02-27-2008, 02:15 AM | #207 |
Minion of Satan
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i just wonder why in their longer songs these days there is such a lack of chord changes.
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02-27-2008, 02:15 AM | #208 |
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02-27-2008, 02:20 AM | #209 |
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Ginger
What! No Ginger?
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02-27-2008, 02:21 AM | #210 |
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