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Old 06-10-2022, 06:58 PM   #1
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Default Kenny Aronoff kinda ruins the Adore aesthetic imo

like -- he's clearly a very good drummer, JC speaks highly of him, no issues musically

but the aesthetic of the record/tour is this very delicate, dark beautiful goth d'arcy topless sorta thing. and then you have aronoff back there with his swim goggles and crazy snare attack and neon shirt and shit and it kinda breaks the vibe for me

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 07:10 PM   #2
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dude, it's 2022. it took you 24 years to figure this out?

duh.

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:09 PM   #3
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hallo gusy, wat is going on in this thread?


 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:29 PM   #4
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Aronoff seems like a nice guy and all, but I have never liked his drumming. He is so hamfisted and a lot like Mikey bambam.

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:41 PM   #5
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i agree, seems very brash at times

but also he's such a pro:


 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:46 PM   #6
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Yeah kinda agree. Nice guy but kinda douchey fashion wise. He has no dynamic to his playing at all. Just smashes the snare all the time.

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:51 PM   #7
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i highly highly disagree with the concept of this thread and my favorite album is adore… kenny was a really good drummer for them and his bicyclist aesthetic is in the same vein as “the horses of adore”

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:52 PM   #8
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Aronoff seems like a nice guy and all, but I have never liked his drumming. He is so hamfisted and a lot like Mikey bambam.
ignorance……………

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:55 PM   #9
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Can’t believe Matt Walker left the band before Adore to do that stupid Cupcakes shit. Wasn’t even very good.

 
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Old 06-10-2022, 10:09 PM   #10
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Old 06-11-2022, 02:06 AM   #11
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Run of the mill sessionman with strong Joe Satriani aesthetics, not ideal.

Matt was the perfect choice, too bad he had to go on a wild goose chase with Cupcakes (lol)

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 06:42 AM   #12
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Yeah he's absolutely Joe Satrianiesque and I would also add peak doucheyness Bono.

Definitely got the douche chills often from Kenny but it's not his fault. He just did his thing and didn't try to play like someone he's not and for that I respect him.

At least him and Mike Garson, along with Corgan, made up a very lustrous trio onstage. It was a pretty good effect, those three shining bald heads bopping as they all collectively make the sound of a catastrophic samba band with cannonball drums and the last action hero on piano.

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:21 AM   #13
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i will not stand for this

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:22 AM   #14
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At least him and Mike Garson, along with Corgan, made up a very lustrous trio onstage.
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:38 AM   #15
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catastrophic samba band
Band name right there

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:41 AM   #16
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kenny rules

all you crybabies itt are just looking for some hot pouty guy to lust after

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:57 AM   #17
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I also think Kenny rules. Those Adore shows, the three percussionists were completely in the background. Didn't detract from anything at the time IMO, as someone who went to a show.

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 11:01 AM   #18
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Yes

Hiring someone like Kenny was the absolute perfect move

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 12:22 PM   #19
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Ram just wants a pouty hot guy to lust after

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 02:55 PM   #20
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Kenny is one of the most beloved musicians in the world.

This is a fascinating interview he did with Bob Lefsetz. Talks all about his history in how he got started with drumming and some crazy stories about his days with Mellencamp. Worth a listen alone for his great stories.

https://overcast.fm/+LBr_XG8I4

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 04:10 PM   #21
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Run of the mill sessionman with strong Joe Satriani aesthetics, not ideal.

Matt was the perfect choice, too bad he had to go on a wild goose chase with Cupcakes (lol)
Cupcakes thing always seemed like a cover for the fact that he got booted, and Corgan later confirmed that in the Confessions. I did like that Cupcakes album, although it's probably been well over twenty years since I listened to it.

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Old 06-11-2022, 05:13 PM   #22
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all you crybabies itt are just looking for some hot pouty guy to lust after
yes.. obviously matt was hotter but they both were great for the band

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 09:57 PM   #23
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matt walker was another perfect replacement

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 09:57 PM   #24
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97 era SP is my favorite

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:22 PM   #25
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insane how based you are actually

 
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Old 06-11-2022, 11:45 PM   #27
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those three shining bald heads bopping as they all collectively make the sound of a catastrophic samba band with cannonball drums and the last action hero on piano.
hahaha now that's a quality description

 
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the proverbial sore thumb doing the sticking out in the adore era, i think we can all agree, was garson. he was like some kind of musical hijacker, things would be going just fine and then he'd suddenly veer the whole band into this ridiculous territory and completely take us out of whatever zone we were in

 
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Yeah he's absolutely Joe Satrianiesque and I would also add peak doucheyness Bono.

Definitely got the douche chills often from Kenny but it's not his fault. He just did his thing and didn't try to play like someone he's not and for that I respect him.

At least him and Mike Garson, along with Corgan, made up a very lustrous trio onstage. It was a pretty good effect, those three shining bald heads bopping as they all collectively make the sound of a catastrophic samba band with cannonball drums and the last action hero on piano.
this post man

 
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i highly highly disagree with the concept of this thread and my favorite album is adore… kenny was a really good drummer for them and his bicyclist aesthetic is in the same vein as “the horses of adore”
‘Sup Ken.

 
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