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Old 07-25-2017, 10:55 PM   #1
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Default Pastoral Zwan appreciation

i'm sure this is like the only show they played this song or some bullshit

A Certain Kind of Change....live at Cafe de la Danse....February 8th, 2003

Friends as Lovers....live at Cafe de la Danse....February 8th, 2003

this isn't zwan (obviously lol) but it's lovely and quite literally pastoral. beethoven's best symphony:

 
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:58 PM   #2
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oh by the way the most played zwan song was settle down (79 times)

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Old 07-25-2017, 11:29 PM   #3
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For seven years, seven days and seven hours he took his chances yeah

 
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:31 PM   #4
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Also The Shining Path is the best Zwan song

 
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:38 PM   #5
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Settle down.

Also, Settle Down. What a fantastic song!

 
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:15 AM   #6
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You guys ever feel that some Zwan songs felt too long? I enjoyed the album but I always felt like the obvious "pop" songs on the record overstayed their welcome, like Settle Down, El Sol, Ride A Black Swan, Endless Summer. Not long in track length (or girth, lel) but just general vibe of the song, like Ride A Black Swan could've done without that last build up into yet another chorus.

Always made a full album listen a bit too fatiguing.

 
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:51 AM   #7
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both great songs, but I especially love Friends as Lovers.

 
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:56 AM   #8
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darling boy she says
you're on my mind she says
I feel your skin she says
as if it's mine she says
this pain is sweet – too sweet to touch


 
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Old 07-26-2017, 09:18 AM   #9
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my fav zwan songs are

lyric
my life and times
Rivers We Can't Cross
ride a black swan
for your love
friends and lovers
a new poetry ( paris 2003)
wasting time

 
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:01 AM   #10
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The Empty Sea
Chrysanthemum
Glorious
For Your Love
Spilled Milk

 
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:58 AM   #11
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:59 AM   #12
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My favourite Zwan song is
































































































































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el sol

 
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:01 PM   #13
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Has there ever been a full studio version of The Shining Path?

I listened to this song tonight.. only live version exists? and it's a great song better than anything on Cyr

 
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:08 PM   #14
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listening to cyr rn ...

fuckin' purp blood is a groove


you're a fool euthansapoo, a FOOL!

 
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:42 PM   #15
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i'm over purp blood.. it's already out of my rotation

 
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Old 12-13-2020, 11:27 PM   #16
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darling boy she says
you're on my mind she says
I feel your skin she says
as if it's mine she says
this pain is sweet – too sweet to touch

so so pretty. this song feels like sitting in a meadow on a summer's day

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Has there ever been a full studio version of The Shining Path?

I listened to this song tonight.. only live version exists? and it's a great song better than anything on Cyr
pretty sure that was one of those 2001 zwan songs that got played 5 times and never again.

MY DAY WILL COME
THERE'S A TURNAROUND TO BE WON

that'd be lovely acoustic too

~~~

el sol is really nice too, but somehow shittier on the record, even tho it's the same arrangement. JC's jazzy ride part feels less prominent

sunshine, that's all i wanted...you and me

 
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Old 12-13-2020, 11:38 PM   #17
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so so pretty. this song feels like sitting in a meadow on a summer's day



pretty sure that was one of those 2001 zwan songs that got played 5 times and never again.

MY DAY WILL COME
THERE'S A TURNAROUND TO BE WON

that'd be lovely acoustic too

~~~

el sol is really nice too, but somehow shittier on the record, even tho it's the same arrangement. JC's jazzy ride part feels less prominent

sunshine, that's all i wanted...you and me
Billy has a way since 2000 of taking the best songs he's written and flushing them down the toilet for some reason..

Gossamer would have been the best song on Zeitgeist if it would have appeared..

The Shining Path would have been the best song on a Swan album if it had appeared.

 
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Old 12-13-2020, 11:41 PM   #18
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it didn't tho & those examples are both 13-20 years old so how 'bout listening to the actual good records & - son of a bitch - other bands!!!!!!!!!!


 
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it didn't tho & those examples are both 13-20 years old so how 'bout listening to the actual good records & - son of a bitch - other bands!!!!!!!!!!

emotional investment

 
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Old 12-14-2020, 05:13 AM   #22
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Btw there's an electric version of a Certain Kind of Change.

Sounds awesome.

https://archive.org/details/zwan2003...km140.t18.flac

 
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Btw there's an electric version of a Certain Kind of Change.

Sounds awesome.

https://archive.org/details/zwan2003...km140.t18.flac
Not enough vibrato and why is Bill's voice so quiet?

 
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Old 12-14-2020, 06:06 AM   #24
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Billy has a way since 2000 of taking the best songs he's written and flushing them down the toilet for some reason..
This is the real story of the band. Every studio album since well... arguably Adore/Machina, has been compromised by production & direction.

How the lead singer's ego led him to sabotage his own talent and commercial potential for 20 straight years.

 
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emotional investment
if he hasn't killed that off for you by this point i'm truly afraid of the type of investments, emotional or otherwise, some of you may end up making in the future

 
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:46 PM   #26
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Look at that shit-eating grin Corgan gets when the crowd goes nuts when he starts singing "Chrysanthemum". That was the moment it ceased to be a band and became another group with Billy calling the shots. (Not to belittle the fact that the crowd's scream really is a great moment).

 
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I think this is where Ram posts YESTERDAY, WE WERE GOING SOMEHWERE

 
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Also The Shining Path is the best Zwan song


Shining Path, you say?

 
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The Dune movie looks WILD

 
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