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07-06-2009, 03:22 AM | #151 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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i don't like tarantula.
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07-06-2009, 03:23 AM | #152 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle?
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i like turtles.
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07-06-2009, 08:02 AM | #153 |
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07-06-2009, 08:06 AM | #154 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle?
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František! Is that you?!?
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07-06-2009, 08:09 AM | #155 |
Banned
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Yes I've been training my turtles
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07-06-2009, 12:26 PM | #156 |
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07-07-2009, 04:53 PM | #157 |
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08-22-2009, 03:46 AM | #158 |
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I wrote this crappy website off for the past year, and return upon a sudden urge to check in with pumpkinland.
I just have to say to the OP of this thread: Best thread I've EVER read, anywhere. If I had the mindset to put pen to pad, or words to computer like you had, I'd said the same thing. Freaking mindblowing, and SPOT ON. I'm done with the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan. I felt the SAME way you did. Thousands of dollars spent, posters, framed photographs. Hell, "Stand inside my love" is ETCHED IN MY WEDDING BAND from my wife. She has a SP Heart tattoo (what fan didnt). I had to let it go. . all go because I saw his greed. I saw his lies. I saw his broken promises. I respect him for what he accomplished in his career, as stained as it may be. . . but being the last man standing in the band says A LOT for what kind of person he has turned into over the years. He wont get a dime of mine ever again. And GD it Andrew. . . the SPYWARE on this site is an absolute abomination! You sold out just like Billy did. But I respect your work over the years, and owe you a ton of gratitude for keeping this site going for so long. The end that was the beginning is finally the end for this fan. |
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08-22-2009, 03:47 AM | #159 |
Immortal
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08-22-2009, 03:49 AM | #160 |
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08-22-2009, 04:34 AM | #161 |
The Man of Tomorrow
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You're easily honored.
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08-22-2009, 05:00 AM | #162 |
Master of Karate and Friendship
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It's not an honor that I hate you.
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08-22-2009, 06:52 AM | #163 |
Starbucks addicted minion
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08-22-2009, 07:28 AM | #164 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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lol what a wanker
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08-30-2009, 11:51 AM | #165 | |
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PS - Netphoria: Whats up bitches! Just so you know I don't give a fuck about your smart-ass comments to my reply. |
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09-01-2009, 11:51 AM | #166 |
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someone should add to the original post the fact that Bill hired a kindergarten suckface to replace a legend like Jimmy Chamberlin, and once again, alienate and offend fans and the memory of Mr. Chamberlin...
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09-01-2009, 12:49 PM | #167 |
Starbucks addicted minion
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09-03-2009, 02:50 AM | #168 | |
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I could. But I think I said all I really had to say back when I originally wrote it. I'm sure I could go back and more, especially things after the fact. It's pretty clear now, though, that until Billy gets his shit together, there's going to be a continuous and unending laundry list of bullshit that's generated by his ridiculousness. |
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09-03-2009, 03:57 AM | #169 |
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Billy Corgan. I know you're reading. And you need to read this. Now.
Billy Corgan. My dear Corga. Mr. Mighty SP I must say that your Spirits in the Sky are great and that I can't wait to see the next SP move. I beleive in you |
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09-03-2009, 04:12 AM | #170 |
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Faggotry.
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01-02-2010, 01:00 PM | #171 |
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Still a thread worthwhile. Bump for the new year.
ps. Someone add the whole Teargarden fiasco to the list. |
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01-02-2010, 09:32 PM | #172 |
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01-03-2010, 10:49 AM | #173 | ||
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01-03-2010, 01:47 PM | #174 |
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bahhh the post has some good points... but you talk about Billy like he should had to be a perfect person. He is just not 100% perfect like you and we all arent. That's it.
Btw: - Zwan, and TFE were great! - Z sucks. - The last tours were not great but there was playing some of the best live versions of some songs ever. - Who really cares that much about Visa Commercial thing? You, in Billy position probably would do worst, who knows?! - And now we are here hopping new good songs are comming out again. If not, just live with that, cry, and still waiting for the next one. ***Untr00 Fan Alert! Untr00 Fan Alert!*** >>>I think you forgot to meantion about the If All Goes Wrong DVD chapter<<<< ***Untr00 Fan Alert! Untr00 Fan Alert!*** |
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01-03-2010, 05:37 PM | #175 |
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First of all, Spiral, I wrote the post a while ago... Before recent bullshit had taken place. I could modify the original post and add all sorts of things. And maybe I will.
Second, when did I ever say I expected him to be perfect? My point was in response to his bitching about fans' lack of support. I was simply providing an explanation of why fans don't support him anymore. And third, we cnt praise him for Teargarden yet. We also can't bash him yet. But the time's certainly coming when we'll know for sure if he's chalked Teargarden up to be yet another failed attempt to make good on something. |
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01-04-2010, 06:53 AM | #176 |
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I love how someone re-posted this on the O-Board and it got deleted without comment in like two minutes. Amazing.
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05-04-2010, 02:20 PM | #177 |
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I only play for money
Like a few others here, I created an account just so I could respond to this incredible post.
Do you guy remember when Billy sang this song with the Frogs? I don't do interviews I won't sign autographs Don't you love a star when he's a prick? I only play for money I don't give a fuck about the fans I only play for money I don't give a shit if you dance ‘cause you're diggin' on the star ‘cause you're diggin' on the one who's gone so far if you take my picture your camera's smashed if you send me fan mail i won't write back don't you love the star when he's a prick? i only play for money i don't give a fuck about the fans i only play for money so keep your autograph books at home i don't give a damn cause you're diggin' on the star cause you’re diggin' on the one who's gone so far Here's the video: YouTube - The Frogs w/ Billy Corgan - I Only Play 4 Money 07/15/1994 Well, it seems it has become a reality :-( |
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05-04-2010, 02:51 PM | #178 |
Amish Rake Fighter
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My little rant
Reyngel, I know this post is a year old and as you said yourself you could change it and add all the new crap that's been going on since then (like that Twitter account etc), but I really wanted to thank you for writing it!
I gave up on the SP since they broke up in 2000. I went to my first and last show that year and to me it was a good way to say goodbye, turn the page, burst the bubble I'd been hiding into since I was 15, and grow up. So I wasn't aware of all the promises and disappointments you refer to, post 2000 at least. And it really makes me sad to discover Billy's become a big prick. Of course I went and bought the Future Embrace and was excited when he started his online confessions and his fan visits around Europe (I was living in London then). So when he toured and gigged in London, we all had great expectations, thinking he was going to be all chatty and open to his audience. But no. The gig was good but he was distant. At the end, we went round the back to catch him and hopefully talk to him. I'd always wanted to talk to him more than have a fucking autograph. Always admired him for his eloquence and wit. We were all standing there in the cold, waiting. The door opens and his head pops out. He makes a sign for us to come closer. Lots of people are there, lots of fans, old and new. All pushing each other to see Billy, to talk to him. To get what he promised us all along through his bloody MySpace page: a connection with the fans. But Billy stayed inside, he didn't come out. He told us he wouldn't because he was sick but that he could sign autographs. Bodyguards guard the door while fans hand Billy their concert ticket, one after the other. Now all we see of him is just his arm grabbing tickets and handing them back. So I got my FUCKING AUTOGRAPH, thanks very much!!! But what the hell do I care? It's just some ink on paper handed to me by a hand through a door!! I got home and wrote to him via MySpace to let "him" know I didn't want to be a fan anymore, and that I was disappointed. I doubt he ever read it, or even cared. What the fuck, Billy?!! At the time I thought he just had a problem with England, London, or whatever. He certainly didn't look or sound sick during the gig! But now it all makes sense why he was acting that way. What the hell became of Billy Corgan? When and why did he become such a douchebag? I'm deeply disappointed. Cause, although I did stop buying any new SP album or Zwan after Machina, I still loved him and his music. Until recently I thought mostly good things about the man, but reading posts on this message board and stuff about dating trashbags, I've become sick of him. I'm also sick of his God-loving persona. Fuck God! By the way, if you're looking for other bands/musician to like, here's my recommendation: - Empire of the Sun - Temper Trap - Ane Brun - Scott Matthew - Joan As Police Woman - The Smiths (in my opinion the best band of all time) |
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05-04-2010, 03:48 PM | #179 |
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Thanks for your thoughts Internet stranger. Also, thanks for bumping this old thread. Maybe one day soon, I will care enough to read what you actually wrote, but I doubt it. Good luck in life as I'm sure we won't be hearing from you again despite your (I assume) insightful 2 posts.
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05-04-2010, 03:52 PM | #180 |
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Since this was bumped again, I went back and read my original post and added a few things since it all happened.
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