Where's the album?

[Rens]

Weren't they recording an album?
All I see is shitty vinyl releases and a madame lulu website that barely works on mobile that sells jazz records.

What the hell happened to them being in the studio?

[Joey Goldberg]

Rat

Bastard

Mother

Fucking

Quinto

[Big Truck05]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

Rat

Bastard

Mother

Fucking

Quinto

Say it ain't so!

[Ram27]

just sitting there

[Big Truck05]

Originally Posted by Rens

Weren't they recording an album?
All I see is shitty vinyl releases and a madame lulu website that barely works on mobile that sells jazz records.

What the hell happened to them being in the studio?

Totally forgot about this.

Can't believe Billy reneged on another project. Shocking!

[Rens]

Originally Posted by Big Truck05

Totally forgot about this.

Can't believe Billy reneged on another project. Shocking!

Did they ever finish that crappy anime series?

[Big Truck05]

Originally Posted by Rens

Did they ever finish that crappy anime series?

Who knows. That was like 485933 projects/ promises ago

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by Rens

Weren't they recording an album?
All I see is shitty vinyl releases and a madame lulu website that barely works on mobile that sells jazz records.

What the hell happened to them being in the studio?

My goodness, that join date.

[Forgotten Child]

Jimmy:

We recently finished recording a thirty-three song “opera/play” type of endeavor that is the music to an incredible narrative/story that Billy wrote. We are still working on the release schedule, so stay tuned.

[Shallowed]

i'll do it on sunday.

[topleybird]

I think it's clear Jimmy is just talking about music, but "'opera/play' type endeavor" — my god, can you imagine if Billy made them all record skits with really flowery, stilted dialogue? Like I love "Cupid de Locke" a lot, but imagine that monologue at the end, except it's several people talking to each other.

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by topleybird

I think it's clear Jimmy is just talking about music, but "'opera/play' type endeavor" — my god, can you imagine if Billy made them all record skits with really flowery, stilted dialogue? Like I love "Cupid de Locke" a lot, but imagine that monologue at the end, except it's several people talking to each other.

would be the most compelling thing they've done in at least 2 decades...

[TheSultanOfCyr]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

would be the most compelling thing they've done in at least 2 decades...

I think someone’s forgetting a certain commercial for a certain furniture company in 2013…

[teh b0lly!!1]

It's gonna look exactly like the Solara video and it's gonna rule

[teh b0lly!!1]

in faith,

in compassion,

a n d i n l o v e .

[Joey Goldberg]

[brothahi4L]

My bet is: there wont be any album this year.
Cannot imagine, cause the guy putting out bootlegs now...adorish and pre pumpkins stuff.
Everyone thought about machina reissue which got obviously abandoned and mcis2... Which will not be released like the psychedelic album/ shiny2???
Fuck this crogan barcy boy....... Have you ever been to reddit pumpkins? This is the place for sadmachines only, i guess...

[Rens]

Oh lol fuck I even forgot about Machina reissue. That been pulled too?
Why not just finish the batch? The reissues were excellent and we were almost there.

[Rens]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPum...el_album_info/

[Oklahoma Sexual]

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Sexual

LMFAO who’s this guy?

Grown up family men in Zero shirts are fucking creepy.

[New Art Rioter]

Gospel singers not the best development, Knights Of Malta part deux incoming

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

Gospel singers not the best development, Knights Of Malta part deux incoming

Maybe the gospel singers will be singing the whole thing and Billy is just on synth for the whole album

[brothahi4L]

My expectations have never been lower. If at least they had worked on songs together ( corona isnt The excuse) there would be the chance of getting a good album again. Sending files ( imagine bill getting solos or gtr parts from james,which he would record himself anyway) is lame, but surely the modern way-lol......

Forget that project...gospel girlies uhhhahhhhh wiiihhaaa woooowwoooo wooo yeah......jesus christ .....

[ninsp]

Who gives a shit

[Nater-Tater-Tot]

New album is still being mixed, he just hasn't been updating the fans on it. B also enlisted a certain producer to come in to help "polish" the songs so that's why he's been quiet about it as of recent. That's all I know in that department.

The Machina reissue was completed after Christmas, and everything has been signed off on it but there were some issues with the artwork (big shocker) and it was essentially put on hold until he decided to announce one day that everything was complete. Originally he tried to get it released this summer, but that changed to February of next year instead assumingly to coincide with the original album release.

Neither of these projects have been shelved necessarily, they're just taking a long time to get released and as with anything B is trying to maximize all profits to fullest extent to keep his shitty tea shop and wrestling business padded with as much cash as possible.

Source: I was recently dismissed from the archive team because my "input was too negative".

All I've done is simply relay the very same concerns and frustrations that all of you have been since the Japan pre-order. Part of this job was to monitor social media and "keep our ears to the ground" on feedback.

Furnace is a great company, lovely people working there- but they sent out two separate batches of defective Japan albums that either skip like crazy on a few songs, or shipped with two "sideA/B" records.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many of you have Japan pressings that you're keeping sealed as a collectors item and have no idea it's defective.

Initially I was pretty stoked to be a part of this, but it wasn't a "team" at all. B has assembled a random few people to vote on whatever he feels like pulling from the archives. The only feedback or ideas he or his wife are interested in are ones that make more profit.

This experience has made it quite hard to enjoy SP, and seeing how these releases are being treated as a cash grab for B's tea shop gets under my skin pretty bad.

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by Nater-Tater-Tot

New album is still being mixed, he just hasn't been updating the fans on it. B also enlisted a certain producer to come in to help "polish" the songs so that's why he's been quiet about it as of recent. That's all I know in that department.

The Machina reissue was completed after Christmas, and everything has been signed off on it but there were some issues with the artwork (big shocker) and it was essentially put on hold until he decided to announce one day that everything was complete. Originally he tried to get it released this summer, but that changed to February of next year instead assumingly to coincide with the original album release.

Neither of these projects have been shelved necessarily, they're just taking a long time to get released and as with anything B is trying to maximize all profits to fullest extent to keep his shitty tea shop and wrestling business padded with as much cash as possible.

Source: I was recently dismissed from the archive team because my "input was too negative".

All I've done is simply relay the very same concerns and frustrations that all of you have been since the Japan pre-order. Part of this job was to monitor social media and "keep our ears to the ground" on feedback.

Furnace is a great company, lovely people working there- but they sent out two separate batches of defective Japan albums that either skip like crazy on a few songs, or shipped with two "sideA/B" records.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many of you have Japan pressings that you're keeping sealed as a collectors item and have no idea it's defective.

Initially I was pretty stoked to be a part of this, but it wasn't a "team" at all. B has assembled a random few people to vote on whatever he feels like pulling from the archives. The only feedback or ideas he or his wife are interested in are ones that make more profit.

This experience has made it quite hard to enjoy SP, and seeing how these releases are being treated as a cash grab for B's tea shop gets under my skin pretty bad.

If this is true mind sharing how you were approached for this? Many years ago I had an invitation to something similar and brushed it off as a prank and then the Lucky 13 stuff happened.

[Spaceboy88]

Originally Posted by Nater-Tater-Tot

All I've done is simply relay the very same concerns and frustrations that all of you have been since the Japan pre-order. Part of this job was to monitor social media and "keep our ears to the ground" on feedback.

Since both Viper Room and Japan were ordered before anyone received product in hand, did any of the feedback on social media make it to Billy and co. for Rubano Tapes? I'm particularly interested in the universal hatred of the packaging and its lack of liner notes or photography, and not including digital downloads. Did he just brush that off?

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by Nater-Tater-Tot

Lots of Good Meat

Well, if that ain't the most interesting post I've seen on this board in a LONG time, I'm not sure what is.

All of that seems logical/credible to me... welcome to the crew, Nate.

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by Nater-Tater-Tot

New album is still being mixed, he just hasn't been updating the fans on it. B also enlisted a certain producer to come in to help "polish" the songs so that's why he's been quiet about it as of recent. That's all I know in that department.

The Machina reissue was completed after Christmas, and everything has been signed off on it but there were some issues with the artwork (big shocker) and it was essentially put on hold until he decided to announce one day that everything was complete. Originally he tried to get it released this summer, but that changed to February of next year instead assumingly to coincide with the original album release.

Neither of these projects have been shelved necessarily, they're just taking a long time to get released and as with anything B is trying to maximize all profits to fullest extent to keep his shitty tea shop and wrestling business padded with as much cash as possible.

Source: I was recently dismissed from the archive team because my "input was too negative".

All I've done is simply relay the very same concerns and frustrations that all of you have been since the Japan pre-order. Part of this job was to monitor social media and "keep our ears to the ground" on feedback.

Furnace is a great company, lovely people working there- but they sent out two separate batches of defective Japan albums that either skip like crazy on a few songs, or shipped with two "sideA/B" records.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many of you have Japan pressings that you're keeping sealed as a collectors item and have no idea it's defective.

Initially I was pretty stoked to be a part of this, but it wasn't a "team" at all. B has assembled a random few people to vote on whatever he feels like pulling from the archives. The only feedback or ideas he or his wife are interested in are ones that make more profit.

This experience has made it quite hard to enjoy SP, and seeing how these releases are being treated as a cash grab for B's tea shop gets under my skin pretty bad.

Best post made here in forever, but sadly confirms what we all know about B. I don't think many Netphorians, if any, are buying these dumb ass reissues.

Gyang333 says Bill is a savvy business man because he knows about harvesting... well, no. Bill is a dumb-as-fuck business man because he is sitting on the legacy of one of the biggest 90's bands and not only was he unable to maintain that momentum because of his own egotistical indulgent fantasies about being a producer, poet, virtuoso singer, industry strategist, wrestling mogul and tea shop proprietor, not only has he has failed to capitalise on pop culture cycles and keep Classic Pumpkins relevant with a steady dripfeed of 90's era recordings, box sets and curated, unreleased material. His definition of what he thinks is valuable to release is based on factors which the listener does not give a shit about, and we have known for 25 years that there are live shows and unreleased material which are top tier, and the mainstream have never heard, which could have been put out as annual releases or even dropped on bandcamp as digital only to gain critical attention and new fans. Not only all of that, but he has cheapened the brand MAGA style with horrible merchandising and focusing on ripping off / taking advantage of a small number of un-discerning lowest common denominator fans. He alienated most people he ever worked with, refuses to play ball with many in the industry, he just wants everything on his terms and doesn't want anyone else to earn a dime in the process. Also... regarding the critical reception of his work since TFE.... so few people paid attention to it, he could salvage most of that material by re-recording live versions with Jimmy and James in a room together. The biggest problem has been the production and vocals. After Zeitgeist (maybe Oceania) it's clear his view of the purpose of the band changed, and as you say it's just something he uses now and then to top up the finances for his other ventures. The albums are phoned in... I liked Cyr but it was essentially a side project cos Bill fancied playing with synths.