why does everyone like Slow Dawn so much

[teh b0lly!!1]

But you know what they say, everything good must eventually be come to a screeching halt by yet another version of Blue Sky Bring Tears

[houseofglass11]

The fast version of BSBT is good

[houseofglass11]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

Real Love>Go>LMGTWTY>Innosense>Home is probably the single largest group of successive A+ of songs on any SP album. Such an unbelievable power sequence

Hi

I am one>Siva>Rhino>Bury Me is unfuckwithable

[slunken]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

Real Love>Go>LMGTWTY>Innosense>Home is probably the single largest group of successive A+ of songs on any SP album. Such an unbelievable power sequence

yoooooo this guy fucks

[ourruseoffools]

i didnt mean to ruffle so many feathers lmfao i was just listening to the song and was like "yea for all the hype this gets in the fan community theres really nothing that grabs me, as opposed to try try try which makes the hair on my arms stand up, yknow?

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by Big Truck05

Slow Dawn
Vanity
Saturnine

is probably the only time Billy has lined up three tracks on a record correctly.

this is far more ludicrous of a take than my OP

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

Real Love>Go>LMGTWTY>Innosense>Home is probably the single largest group of successive A+ of songs on any SP album. Such an unbelievable power sequence

yea these songs all rock my socks off, i might even go back and add cash car>dross to that... machina ii goes hard

Originally Posted by paranoid

There are so many songs on M2 that should’ve been on M1.

yea but slow dawn doesnt really solve any problems that are created by the weakest m1 songs in my opinion... it has the same cadence as the machina1 version of bsbt just less glittery

[run2pee]

To me it’s good b/c it feels exactly like when u get up so blurry from busy nites and the coffee is ass and your windshield is dirty but u got no fluid and u driving to shitty work in the cold of leftover winter but then the sun comes up peeking so golden between the houses of your neighborhood, shining thru the naked trees onto that spattered dusty windshield, and it comes in the car with u, and then u think fuck mom this my favorite band

[Joey Goldberg]

i don't think i've ever seen so much "Innosense" love in one place and it's moving me to a tear

excuse me

[Joey Goldberg]

oh let me add Speed Kills (SIYL b-side version) to my list of top tier Machiners btw

eeeeehhh uuuughgh, FUCK, OUCH

ok I added it.

[smashingjj]

lol

[VoxUpDoc]

So what we’re saying is if the sequence went

Slow Dawn
Vanity
Saturnine
Real Love
Go
LMGTWTY
Innosense
Home

M2 would have the best stretch of songs on any SP record?

(I disagree, but I do think it’s hella strang)

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

Real Love>Go>LMGTWTY>Innosense>Home is probably the single largest group of successive A+ of songs on any SP album. Such an unbelievable power sequence

all of these songs are subpar

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

all of these songs are subpar

go ahead and say that about the other songs... but you better take back what you just said about 'go' and you better do it fast

[Joey Goldberg]

have i been watching too many Apple TV originals or are we currently, actually in the year 2000 atm?

[VoxUpDoc]

M2 Saturnine is a nope from me, dawg.

And Innosense is… ok.

Sequence needs Speed Kills, BSBT (Bouncy) and L13.

[ourruseoffools]

i actually dislike speed kills way more than slow dawn but we dont have to go there

[ourruseoffools]

everlasting gaze fucken rocks

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by ourruseoffools

everlasting gaze fucken rocks

Worst post in the worst thread on this forum.

[TheSultanOfCyr]

I suppose you prefer Burnt Orange Black, Doctor?

[Big Truck05]

I stand by what I said.

The Pieces argument is good, but Hello Kitty Kat is a beast and it clearly destroys the other 2 songs on that list.

LMGTWTY is a soft pop song and belongs on no list even tho everyone considers it so great because he never plays it live or whatever. Fuck that song. Never liked it.

SD has too many classics to be considered. I'd say the entire album from beginning to end works. Again, all solid songs, so it's null and void.

I'll review MCIS, but probably falls into the same category as SD. The Night Side, or whatever the F it's called, is probably the best place to start.

[ilikeplanets]

Even though poster above said this opinion is null and void, SD from start to finish is the strongest stretch of songs. Particularly the obvious trinity of Soma Geek Mayo. As interesting and beloved as MCIS is to me, it is quite disjointed without as solid of a run of 4-5 songs like that. I also really enjoy the trio of SIYL, I of the Mourning and Sacred and Profane. Those are some of my quintessential Machina tracks. Life is easier if I separate Machina 1 & 2 into separate entities when I pick favorites from them.

[Joey Goldberg]

Originally Posted by ourruseoffools

i actually dislike speed kills way more than slow dawn but we dont have to go there

brother, you went there & I am going to hold you to it

[Joey Goldberg]

you will no longer be finding me on the side of the "allies" in ouruseofprotools ongoing Dawn War

[brothahi4L]

Try alternative is better than try on m1.... Vanity, slow dawn, speed kills, saturnine, dross, let me give, go, home, innosense, if there is a god( band) and try alt...... Jesus those songs are top tier.... And i really like m2 more than overproduced m1

[brothahi4L]

Btw how are ya golden Joey??

[VoxUpDoc]

It’s a long standing myth in the fandom that Try Alternate is better than the M1 version.

Here’s the cold hard facts:

Nee-naw nee-naaaaw Nee-naw nee-naaaaw

is grating as fuck.

M1 Try is better.

[TheSultanOfCyr]

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc

It’s a long standing myth in the fandom that Try Alternate is better than the M1 version.

Here’s the cold hard facts:

Nee-naw nee-naaaaw Nee-naw nee-naaaaw

is grating as fuck.

M1 Try is better.

I could say the same for the Corgan reverbed exhale that permeates through the whole song on Machina Uno.

Try Alternate is my favourite Pumpkins song alongside Age of Innocence. It hurts to see it lambasted so.

The only SUBSTANTIAL leg up Machina Uno Try has over the other is the AND WE RRRRRR STILL ALIVE - that bit was like being pulled up into my attic by me tighty whities when I first heard it.

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by Big Truck05

LMGTWTY is a soft pop song and belongs on no list even tho everyone considers it so great because he never plays it live or whatever. Fuck that song. Never liked it.

i like how big truck can get away with this garbage but the second i say speed kills is mid everyones heart stops in its tracks

[houseofglass11]

The Machina bonus track version of Speed Kills is not mid. Great song and that’s the best version.

[ourruseoffools]

mike garson's performance on the adore tour (1998) brings me the same level of emotional nirvana as jimmy chamberlain's drumming on mellon collie & the infinite sadness (1995)

go ahead come after me call me troll but im only giving my real opinions here and guess what,,, they rock