Monte has the goods...

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by LalaPumpkinhead

TAFH reissue doesn't make sense. tell Billy. Also the MCIS price is insane. If it is more than 60 dollars then I won't buy it. 130 dollars for fucking CD's in 2012 is insane

I'm sure it won't actually end up costing that much. The only bearing we have on price right now is the Amazon listing, which will probably end up fluctuating.

That assumption aside - it sounds like what we're getting is far more than the little box along the lines of the Gish or Siamese reissue: "It all comes housed in a 12 x 12 lift-top box with magnetic closure, reimagined cover art and velvet-lined disc holder. The package includes 2 books containing personal notes, lyrics, new collage artwork, plus a Decoupage kit for creating your own scenes from the MELLON COLLIE universe." This is going to be a box set in the true sense of the word... so if it's around $100, that doesn't seem outrageous to me.

[slunken]

for realsies i am interested in this reissue but the way the last one was handled (and the lack of reassurance that it won't happen again) i am full of doubt

[wHATcOLOR]

What the heck is a Decoupage kit

[jimmy drevpile]

Presumably something 'soccer moms' are in to.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by wHATcOLOR

What the heck is a Decoupage kit

You glue down picture with Elmers glue.

Decoupage (or découpage) is the art of decorating an object by gluing colored paper cutouts onto it in combination with special paint effects, gold leaf and so on. Commonly an object like a small box or an item of furniture is covered by cutouts from magazines or from purpose-manufactured papers. Each layer is sealed with varnishes (often multiple coats) until the "stuck on" appearance disappears and the result looks like painting or inlay work. The traditional technique used 30–40 layers of varnish which were then sanded to a polished finish. This was known in 18th century England as the art of Japanning after its presumed origins.

[whywontyoulistn]

Odds are it'll just be a piece of card with the new cover background and a sheet of stickers.

[RenewRevive]

Originally Posted by Rider

And god knows what he did with his pants for 6 months.

maybe he did a moonlight Ed Gein dance?

Originally Posted by Araneae

He's openly supportive of animal rights, food rights, nature/environment, gay people, he's anti pharmaceutical drugs and into holistic medicine, he's anti big business, and anti big government. The guy even tried going vegan. How many times have you met a conservative animal-loving-vegan who's also into holistic food and medicine? For fuck's sake, he spends half his time in LA with hippies and porn stars. He ain't that fucking conservative.

you forgot that he lived in a teepee for a month with Neil Young and Harvey Keitel.

[wHATcOLOR]

thanks for the info guys. glad tafh will get a reissue

i'm struggling to think of something more useless than a "decoupage kit". perhaps an obelisk..

[Grox]

dude stickers are cool. chill

obelisk is easily more useless

[Monet LSD]

hewn in the shadows of machu picchu

[brendo_91]

Originally Posted by Araneae

For fuck's sake, his own bassist is a lesbian.

Has this ever been confirmed?

[Rider]

Hey I'm not racist some of my best friends are black!

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Grox

dude stickers are cool. chill

obelisk is easily more useless

I'd rather have an affordable $50 CD package and billy can keep his stickers.

Tired of paying an extra $100 for boxsets with silly crap in them, Pink Floyd can keep their damn scarves and marbles. Around this time last year when I was about to drop about $500 on a bunch of overpriced boxsets I realized how disgusting and exploitative it is and refuse to buy them now.

Cool artists have been fighting this trend:

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...ello-patagonia

Billy being the whore he is jumped on this just like he did when he killed the box store exclusive trend with his rainbow over indulgence.

[smashedguava]

So according to Monte, it turns out Lover (Arrangement 1 demo) is actually an early demo of Lover, Lover the LICD song. Surprised Bill's going out of his way to showcase some Iha songs.

[Grox]

Originally Posted by smashedguava

So according to Monte, it turns out Lover (Arrangement 1 demo) is actually an early demo of Lover, Lover the LICD song. Surprised Bill's going out of his way to showcase some Iha songs.

fuck that i wanted to hear the machina song

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by D.

Hey, how about this.. we either talk about the updates or we close this thread. This is the second goddamned Monte thread on the front page.

Discussing Monte and your personal disdain or appreciation for him or his religion is not SP-related.

Sound good? Good.

dude just let it go.

[Eulogy]

oh, and monte is awful

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by Grox

fuck that i wanted to hear the machina song

Bahhhh, fully agree. That was one of the songs I was most looking forward to on this release. Guess we'll hopefully get it on Adore or Machina?

Kinda bummed that was already spoiled for me - but I guess I'd rather have that hope dashed NOW than when I threw in the disc and was hoping for it, only to get an early Iha version.

[Grox]

james sucks

[D.]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

dude just let it go.

you quoted something from like three days ago...

i clearly have

[New Art Rioter]

So why the Iha tunes?

Surely BC wouldn't be petty enough to attempt to reappropriate LICD songs as Pumpkins songs. HMM

[whywontyoulistn]

This is probably his response to all the criticism he got for the "James is a piece of shit" stuff; "Oh, I don't get along with him personally, but I am a big enough man to put that aside and admit it when the music is that good blah blah aren't I wonderful/forgiving/mature (unlike that cunt die James die.)".

[Rider]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

So why the Iha tunes?

Surely BC wouldn't be petty enough to attempt to reappropriate LICD songs as Pumpkins songs. HMM

I think it's pretty clear that these LICD songs were left over MCIS songs that never made the album.

[Astur]

Originally Posted by Rider

I think it's pretty clear that these LICD songs were left over MCIS songs that never made the album.

Now I see Billco's point on releasing them on MCIS reissue. "His solo album was composed of a couple turds too awful to be included on MCIS. Terrible person"

[themadcaplaughs]

This is probably his response to all the criticism he got for the "James is a piece of shit" stuff; "Oh, I don't get along with him personally, but I am a big enough man to put that aside and admit it when the music is that good blah blah aren't I wonderful/forgiving/mature (unlike that cunt die James die.)".

Some interview he did around the time Oceania came out, he claimed it was very hard for him to put these on the resissue due to his personal problems with James, but stated they were good songs and he said something along the lines of "it showed James did more than just sit and mope at the studio."

Although many of the songs on Iha's first solo album apparently date back to the early 1990s, I would not be surprised if, as Astur stated, that this is his way of saying that his songs were too shitty to make the final cut.

[Rider]

I'm all for bashing Billy but you guys can't have it both ways if he had left the songs off it would be he hates James and left all of his demos off, since the demos are on the album now you need to create all these crazy evil reasons he would ******* them.

I think he just wanted a somewhat complete record of where the band was at the time.

We know he hates Towers Of Rabble but he also included that.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Grox

obelisk is easily more useless

I've had great success summoning the devil with that thing. Stickers are so 90's.

[slunken]

Morning Tea: 03-X.Y.U. (Take 11)

The track has an angry and powerful live feel to it. It is not as polished as the take that ended up on Mellon Collie. Some additional lyrics by Billy are added as you will hear heard in the sample. The ending of the track has a slightly different death march but it’s just over 7 minutes of pure rock.

[Esty]

Originally Posted by D.

you quoted something from like three days ago...

i clearly have

Lets hope this is the last time I have to tell you how to do your job.


Idiot.

[Rider]

People who have talked to Monte in person.

Will things like "hear heard" pop out of his mouth when he is talking.