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06-24-2022, 08:58 PM | #1 |
dumb
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Liftoff choruses
love these.
what's the secret? is it the chord progression alone? all the songs that i can think of are: Ava Adore Perfect Everlasting Gaze SIYL HMM |
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06-24-2022, 09:01 PM | #2 |
Virgo
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chorus pedal
but i'm not sure about chord/key change |
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06-24-2022, 09:01 PM | #3 |
Virgo
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too dumb for that
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06-24-2022, 09:34 PM | #4 |
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good thread, bad list
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06-24-2022, 09:41 PM | #5 |
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Age of Innocence
JELLYBELLY lifts crazy at the end not only due to production but also due to brilliant writing This Time TEG I dunno I lost interest |
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06-24-2022, 09:47 PM | #6 |
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WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CHORUSES
ALL YA SONGS, THEY GOT NO CHORUSES! |
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06-25-2022, 12:08 AM | #7 |
Virgo
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Everlasting Gaze probably the perfect example of this
Absolutely transcendent move from the verse to chorus I don't even care about the song but just to hear that change is a wowee moment |
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06-25-2022, 12:14 AM | #8 |
Virgo
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has anybody written anything critically about this video? i'm finding it much more curious now that i'm watching it closer |
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06-25-2022, 04:01 AM | #9 |
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I think it's a great video, lots of nice edits. Plus MADM is fucking coool.
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06-25-2022, 04:22 AM | #10 | |
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2. frequently cutting between "teh illusion" and "behind the curtain" with digital glitching occurring mostly over the transitions = Bolly going talking to God 3. smashing guitars = rock is dead. throwback to 1991. leaving scorched earth 4. strangers walking around the set seemingly unaware of the music video taking place = "I'm casting my pearls before swine anyway" |
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06-25-2022, 12:29 PM | #11 |
Virgo
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06-25-2022, 12:30 PM | #12 |
Virgo
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I dare say the "lift off" is even stronger in live versions
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06-25-2022, 09:48 PM | #13 |
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literally their best video and one of their best songs.... the fact that your average netpho can't get over the acapella bridge proves that theres still a lot of growing up to do in TSP fanbase
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06-25-2022, 09:50 PM | #14 |
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the secret of the liftoff chorus is in the production... extra elements/layers are added and often in the case of ram's examples, ambiance enters which adds and airiness to the chorus as opposed to the drier verses
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06-25-2022, 10:02 PM | #15 |
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06-26-2022, 09:14 AM | #16 |
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Gonna go with a potentially unpopular opinion here, but Melissa's underboob in this video is hotter than D'arcy's nips during the Adore era (plus Kenny Aronoff kind of ruined the aesthetic of that era).
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06-26-2022, 02:13 PM | #17 |
Virgo
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06-26-2022, 02:13 PM | #18 |
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06-26-2022, 10:40 PM | #19 |
Virgo
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add the batman song to the list
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06-26-2022, 10:41 PM | #20 |
Virgo
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i wonder if there should be a concurrent "cyber-metal" thread
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06-26-2022, 11:39 PM | #21 |
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Your supposed to sing higher on the chorus
That how u make ‘em pop a bone or whatever. Wet their pants, etc All i knows it a long way to the top if u want to rock and roll |
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06-27-2022, 04:18 AM | #22 |
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I can't tell if you're joking cuz that transition always sounded so hamfisted to me whenever they played it live. They just pound on through the riff as hard as possible and without the added keyboard parts or whatever it is it just sounds like dry assrape
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06-27-2022, 05:25 AM | #23 |
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06-27-2022, 08:12 AM | #24 |
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Sometimes, a song will go up a step in key, but I don't think most pop/rock songs do this between chorus and verse. They more often do it for that final, extra amped-up chorus ("Man in the Mirror").
Sometimes, it's just a matter of the chorus being louder and having a faster tempo than the verse. I think that is likely the case in most of these songs. I don't think Corgan uses key modulation a heck of a lot. Though I haven't sat down and looked at the notes to verify. |
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06-27-2022, 09:20 AM | #25 | |
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Billy big mad that he can't play his twee little Garson piano Adore stuff any more and he's all like "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?! IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT FROM US YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS???? IS IT??? WELL EAT IT!!!!!!! EAT IT, SHITHEADS!!!!!! FUCK YOU TOO, CEILING TILES!!!!!!! I WANT TO GO BACK TO MY HARPSICHORD AND BANJO AND ALL THAT SHIT AND I'M REALLY FRUSTRATED" They said there'd be worse to come when Roe v Wade got overturned but I wasn't expecting it to come in the form of opinions that make me want to kms |
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06-27-2022, 12:23 PM | #26 |
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Thirty Three and Ava Adore are my fav of the videos
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06-27-2022, 12:26 PM | #27 |
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You have the worst opinions about everything. The acapella bridge is embarrassing. I literally cringed the first time I heard it and have skipped that part ever since. The chorus of that song is good though.
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06-27-2022, 12:48 PM | #28 |
Janis Jopleybird
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Am I just getting old? Am I going to start voting for candidates who want to tax the unhoused or burn peaceful protesters at the stake or something? Is the TEG video being someone's favorite maybe just something I need to make peace with if I don't want my soul to wither away? Should I fondly recall the videos for Today, Rocket, Tonight Tonight before settling into a meditation pose and thinking "It's good and cool for someone to prefer the one where Billy is prophetically making wild semaphore-signal gestures at a fisheye lens while standing on a floor that looks suspiciously like a green-screen setup they ran out of money for. I am unclenching my jaw and embracing my intuitive wisdom"?
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07-02-2022, 03:52 AM | #29 |
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ram - the songs you mention are mostly ones that have the verse in a minor key with heavy emphasis on the 1 chord, and then the chorus starts with the relative major key's 1 chord (the 3 chord in the minor key).
Ava Adore - F minor, chorus goes to the relative major (G#) and starts with the G# chord. Everlasting Gaze - C# minor (or whatever the fuck down tuning it's in), to E major. SIYL - Bb minor, to D major. HMM dos a similar thing but with a key change too - C# minor, to A major not sure what you mean with perfect though to be honest, the verses and chorus sound the same to me. always thought it was a pretty crappy same sounding song all the way through. |
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