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10-04-2021, 12:37 PM | #6301 |
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He didn't
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10-04-2021, 12:54 PM | #6302 |
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I wonder if Corgan’s Zwan harassment played any part in Pajo’s suicide attempt
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10-04-2021, 01:04 PM | #6303 |
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I thought beating up his wife was the main reason but hey what do I know
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10-04-2021, 01:58 PM | #6304 |
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10-04-2021, 02:03 PM | #6305 |
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What a fucked up situation to be in. Why didn’t they just walk away? They chose to oblige and stick around til the bald lord fired them.
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10-05-2021, 12:32 AM | #6306 | |
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Billy silences people to make sure we only get HIS version of events. |
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10-05-2021, 01:08 AM | #6307 |
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must be a bit of a burden on the bank account
no wonder he charges such ridiculous prices for, well, everything |
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10-13-2021, 05:22 AM | #6308 |
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He's at it again, he believes IG "shadow banned" him and cost him 1000s of followers. And that he has 100k followers but why doesn't he have 100m like some celebs?? And that people have to scroll for ages to see his stories.
Nothing to do with the fact that he's a man in his 50s in a band even it's hardcore fans struggle with the new music of; or that his handle is "WPC" or that he literally has ONE post on his IG profile. |
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10-13-2021, 05:26 AM | #6309 |
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Billy did a Q&A last night again and someone asked him about playing pre-pumpkins songs with the band and he said the plan is to revive Zwan with Jimmy and that would work as a platform to play deep cuts and covers because there's some sort of pressure / expectations on the pumpkins that makes it hard for them to play this kind of stuff.
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10-13-2021, 05:37 AM | #6310 |
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So Billy said some more shit that is only true inside his head. He could just merge the Zwan catalogue with Pumpkins and carve out 20mins of any setlist for 3-4 deep cuts from either band. Like every other band and the Pumpkins used to do.
There is no appetite for a Zwan tour, as a fan of that period. He is being so fucking dumb about everything he is doing with the band right now. |
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10-13-2021, 05:44 AM | #6311 |
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As far as I remember, the plan with Zwan is to play small venues. I'm sure he would manage selling that your in the US.
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10-13-2021, 05:45 AM | #6312 |
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Most people, if they heard the name Zwan, would say "who?"
At least the Pumpkins has some brand / name recognition. Who'd go see a Zwan show anyway, if they weren't Pumpkins fans to begin with? If you think about it, Zwan have no reason to exist now. The only reason to exist before was so Billy could still in a band, with Jimmy, and for it to act as a vehicle for his songs, whatever style they were going to be. He has that with the Pumpkins now. Cyr / Shiny etc has proven that he's not sticking to one recognisable style, he's doing whatever he wants, and SP is a vehicle for whatever songs he wants to do. So why bother with Zwan? Does he think people are dying to hear Endless Summer, or Yeah!, or Lyric live? |
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10-13-2021, 06:51 AM | #6313 | |
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He's probably just broken the algorithm with his ridiculous approach to 'fan engagement' and 'content creation'. |
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10-13-2021, 08:17 AM | #6314 |
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His IG stories are impossible to follow, I reckon most people have muted those through choice rather than IG doing anything nefarious
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10-13-2021, 08:45 AM | #6315 | |
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10-13-2021, 10:00 AM | #6316 |
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I suspect the Zwan babble is something for him to entertain Chloe with. Some lame inside relationship joke that she can't be in the Pumpkins, but she could be in his other bands - so she keeps saying she wants to be in Zwan, so he repeats that he'll reform the band to amuse her.
if it ever happens, it'll be a joke. maybe funny, maybe a financial failure, whatever. |
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10-13-2021, 11:52 AM | #6317 |
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He obviously want to play something out of the ordinary but decided not to do that with the pumpkins after the Fillmore experience and all the crap he got from fans/media (even though he was partially to blame for it).
It's just like the Starchildren experience again. Or the Spirits In The Sky of you will. |
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10-13-2021, 12:06 PM | #6318 |
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It's the best when minor celebrities look at their engagement stats and conclude that Twitter, Instagram, whatever are throttling them for being too controversial or not aligning with that corporation's politics or whatever diseased rationalization they come up with
Like "I have 10,309 followers; why do I only get 30 likes on this captionless photo of Clara Bow when I should have 10,309 likes... shit, I'm being silenced!" Insta's algorithm keeps changing anyway and I think now, if you're not posting a video in your feed, every single day, and posting to your stories multiple times a day, you're going to show up for fewer and fewer of your followers — the head of the company said it's not a photo-sharing platform any more Sure, Billy could have someone look this shit up and adjust, or he could crusade against being personally targeted by a corporation run by people too young to have ever fucking heard of him |
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10-13-2021, 12:29 PM | #6319 | |
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They’re preternaturally skilled at drawing u back in with “i do care about u but this is just the way i am and/or what i need to do to succeed,” “ok i get it, it’ll be better from now on,” “let’s turn the page, get past this,” “ooh look at me and my terrible childhood i can’t possibly help it (even tho grown ass adult with CHOICES)” etc., also sheer force of charisma As someone who was raised by an NPD dad, my heart hurts for every person who has been/still is in big willie’s immediate presence. May the Allmother bless them and protect them from the infinite badness |
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10-13-2021, 01:03 PM | #6320 |
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You know what's funny? I'm 100% sure just the day the news broke of the end of the band, I remember Jimmy and Matt Sweeney were asked about it and they denied it saying they were still playing together. I can't find that interview anymore tho...
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10-13-2021, 01:21 PM | #6321 |
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10-13-2021, 01:57 PM | #6322 | |
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Whens he gonna grow the hell up, jfc |
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10-13-2021, 05:48 PM | #6323 | |
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10-13-2021, 06:01 PM | #6324 |
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pretty hilarious for a 55 year old rocker to think he should be an influencer
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10-13-2021, 06:14 PM | #6325 |
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i dunno i hear he rocks a mean bathrobe
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10-13-2021, 06:16 PM | #6326 |
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Corgan is his own worst enemy. Zwan reunion? How can you even consider a reunion when there is virtually no one asking for it? I doubt a Zwan boxset would sell 1500 copies. Even if it was something like a 6 to 8 disc set with illustrious packaging for $60.
Billy really should be curating a fan collective that would help him with stuff like remastering older material, creating new packaging and figuring out distribution, etc. He is at the fans level in terms of social awareness at this point in his career. To be anecdotal I had a viral song that hit 130 million views last year. Billy across all his projects since since Oceania hasn't hit that number combined and he thinks he is an influencer and is shadow banned? Dude has terrible perception of social media and now with his management gone I doubt we'll see anymore festival shows. |
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10-13-2021, 06:19 PM | #6327 |
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Zwan sucks. Let's talk about something else.
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10-13-2021, 06:33 PM | #6328 |
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Yes, good idea. Thought's on the bathrobe??
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10-13-2021, 06:41 PM | #6329 |
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I had six viral songs that hit 131 million views last year, but, y'know, some folks are just starting out
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10-13-2021, 07:35 PM | #6330 |
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If he gets on stage with Peter Hooks stupid kid and Jeff to play Zwan songs he can just keep fucking off.
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