Cover tweaks

spguitar0 · 03-22-2022, 03:47 PM

Before I go further.
What needs to change on this?
I will be adding another synth for more movement and tweaking the drums a bit more.
Any other suggestions?
https://youtu.be/gwfnVGjPKq8

jimmy drevpile · 03-22-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spguitar0

Before I go further.
What needs to change on this?
I will be adding another synth for more movement and tweaking the drums a bit more.
Any other suggestions?
https://youtu.be/gwfnVGjPKq8

What are you going for? You trying to recreate the original or do something a bit different. Bring out the synths a bit more, I quite liked them, is you want to make it more interesting that a straight-up copy... That's my take anyway.

spguitar0 · 03-22-2022, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy drevpile

What are you going for? You trying to recreate the original or do something a bit different. Bring out the synths a bit more, I quite liked them, is you want to make it more interesting that a straight-up copy... That's my take anyway.

I want to get semi close but it’s tuned half a step up.
C# instead of C. I want the drums to be a bit bigger than the original so I used Slate’s trigger on Popot Fabio’s drums that he sent me.
I layered the Diezel and a Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 then added Burier on the Diezel and Sound Toys Decapitator on the Marshall for that cyber grit thing.
I’m hoping the extra synth layer might make them pop a bit more with movement.

Baffler_Meal · 03-22-2022, 04:24 PM

Sounding really good, spguitar0. The drums sound bigger but maybe a bit too forward and separated in the mix.

If I were mixing it I'd end up spending days tweaking the compression before just turning down the channel volume and throwing it in the endless "fuckups" directory.

I think another synth would sound good and I do like the additional brightness from moving to C#.

BlissedandGone2 · 03-22-2022, 04:35 PM

damn sounds good

spguitar0 · 03-22-2022, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by qlitchford

Sounding really good, spguitar0. The drums sound bigger but maybe a bit too forward and separated in the mix.

If I were mixing it I'd end up spending days tweaking the compression before just turning down the channel volume and throwing it in the endless "fuckups" directory.

I think another synth would sound good and I do like the additional brightness from moving to C#.

I definitely agree about the drums. I had just laid trigger in and started tweaking before this mixdown. I’m debating bringing the room mics up slightly for “glue” too. It feels like a never ending process when I start mixing things but trigger livened it up so much.

spguitar0 · 03-22-2022, 05:19 PM

Rough mix with a 1 take run of vocals

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iwy...ew?usp=sharing

jimmy drevpile · 03-22-2022, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by qlitchford

The drums sound bigger but maybe a bit too forward and separated in the mix...

Yeah, something kind of off - reverb maybe, makes it a bit hollow somehow?

That drummer is good. Thanks for name dropping. I'll have to watch a couple more of his vids

Good work. Sounds cool anyway.

AveryLoren · 03-22-2022, 06:58 PM

I'm on the fourth listen of the "Rough mix w/ vocals" and I am really digging the overall recording. I will say I am not hearing much going on in the low end. The bass is nearly inaudible and I am listening on a set of adam a77x's with a sub. THe drumming and guitar work are phenomenal to me. Singing is good, could use better layering or some snarl to really give it some bite. During the a cappella breakdown part, the vocals are layered nearly identically so it gives it a sort of phasing sound that I didn't like.

Would you ever entertain the idea of a remix project with the stems once you're finished with this track?

spguitar0 · 03-22-2022, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AveryLoren

I'm on the fourth listen of the "Rough mix w/ vocals" and I am really digging the overall recording. I will say I am not hearing much going on in the low end. The bass is nearly inaudible and I am listening on a set of adam a77x's with a sub. THe drumming and guitar work are phenomenal to me. Singing is good, could use better layering or some snarl to really give it some bite. During the a cappella breakdown part, the vocals are layered nearly identically so it gives it a sort of phasing sound that I didn't like.

Would you ever entertain the idea of a remix project with the stems once you're finished with this track?

Absolutely! I have them on Adam monitors too and I’m really hoping a 2nd bass layer will help lift the low end some. I may have gone a bit overboard on the sound toys vocal effects in this rough draft. It’s so hard not to.
Any other suggestions? I appreciate your comments very much!

AveryLoren · 03-22-2022, 07:48 PM

Experimenting with plugins and effects is the best way to find new sounds and techniques. I've listened to this track like 25 times now lol. Curious, is that pick squeal or trill at 1:14/15?

spguitar0 · 03-22-2022, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AveryLoren

Experimenting with plugins and effects is the best way to find new sounds and techniques. I've listened to this track like 25 times now lol. Curious, is that pick squeal or trill at 1:14/15?

I believe it’s a pick slide on one of the underlying Terz layers. There’s a LOT of guitar on this. I used 4 different ones.

brothahi4L · 03-23-2022, 11:22 AM

Why copying a song almost one to one? It sounds reall good, but doing your own completely different version would be cooler

spguitar0 · 03-23-2022, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brothahi4L

Why copying a song almost one to one? It sounds reall good, but doing your own completely different version would be cooler

The final version will have a few more elements but I like the challenge of a full on cover for the most part.

Spaceboy88 · 03-23-2022, 02:15 PM

At this point you should just record the entire Machina record and B-sides. It'll be done before the reissue.

spguitar0 · 03-23-2022, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaceboy88

At this point you should just record the entire Machina record and B-sides. It'll be done before the reissue.

I recorded everything besides the drums of course in like 4-5 hours so that's tempting!

slunken · 03-24-2022, 06:59 PM

rocking

spguitar0 · 03-28-2022, 01:24 AM

Thanks for the advice on TEG guys. I took it all into consideration as I was recording the final vocal takes this weekend. It’s being sent off for Mastering by a Grammy nominated engineer. Will release it soon under the project name Pure as a Lie.

Here’s what’s coming next:
https://youtu.be/Rj6C4NpYf7Y

AveryLoren · 03-28-2022, 02:35 AM

Sounds dope, but was hoping for a full on recording of MACHINA lol. Whats the goal of this project?

spguitar0 · 03-28-2022, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AveryLoren

Sounds dope, but was hoping for a full on recording of MACHINA lol. Whats the goal of this project?

It started as learning my new recording software and playing some of my favorite songs while doing that. Now I really don’t know honestly with how good they’re turning out.
I’d like to put out a tribute ep.

AveryLoren · 03-28-2022, 05:43 PM

I'm all for that, I'd love to hear it.

brothahi4L · 03-29-2022, 07:53 AM

Good work dude. You should really do a whole machina album and then release it.
Surely bill would tell the fbi. So take care

spguitar0 · 03-29-2022, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brothahi4L

Good work dude. You should really do a whole machina album and then release it.
Surely bill would tell the fbi. So take care

I always wanted to do a full album cover of MCIS.
That would be a major undertaking though. Positive note! I just sent TEG to Mike Kalajian for mastering. He did my bands last EP and has some Grammy nominations so it’s gonna sound beefy.

spguitar0 · 04-08-2022, 08:37 PM

I started Luna.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcBn6..._web_copy_link

This is a potential tracklist for the project. Thoughts?

The Everlasting Gaze
Tristessa
The Beginning is the End is the Beginning (intro)
The End is the Beginning is the End
Tiberius
Thirty Three
Starla
Geek USA
Marchin’ On
Gossamer(Acoustic)
Shame
Glass’ Theme
Stellar
Luna
Jellybelly

Big Truck05 · 04-09-2022, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spguitar0

I started Luna.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcBn6..._web_copy_link

This is a potential tracklist for the project. Thoughts?

The Everlasting Gaze
Tristessa
The Beginning is the End is the Beginning (intro)
The End is the Beginning is the End
Tiberius
Thirty Three
Starla
Geek USA
Marchin’ On
Gossamer(Acoustic)
Shame
Glass’ Theme
Stellar
Luna
Jellybelly

You're great brotha. Cool to see the solo versions up close.

Have you done Aeroplane flies high? Would love to see it.

spguitar0 · 04-10-2022, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Truck05

You're great brotha. Cool to see the solo versions up close.

Have you done Aeroplane flies high? Would love to see it.

Thank you! I have a clip from ages ago of TAFH.
2010 haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKr2dvEyzRg

spguitar0 · 05-03-2022, 02:38 AM

Here’s a clip of Luna. I think it’s done.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CdFfs...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Big Truck05 · 05-03-2022, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spguitar0

Thank you! I have a clip from ages ago of TAFH.
2010 haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKr2dvEyzRg

Love it. Keep em comin'. You rip!

spguitar0 · 05-03-2022, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Truck05

Love it. Keep em comin'. You rip!

Thank you! I’m really dying to get TEITBITE done.
That nasal snarl is gonna be fun with bigger guitars than the original.

spguitar0 · 05-06-2022, 09:57 AM

Pre-save link for The Everlasting Gaze.
https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/pu...erlasting-gaze

03-22-2022, 03:47 PM	#1
spguitar0 Demi-God Posts: 487	Cover tweaks Before I go further. What needs to change on this? I will be adding another synth for more movement and tweaking the drums a bit more. Any other suggestions? https://youtu.be/gwfnVGjPKq8

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03-22-2022, 04:24 PM	#4
Baffler_Meal Mothmonsterman Posts: 336	Sounding really good, spguitar0. The drums sound bigger but maybe a bit too forward and separated in the mix. If I were mixing it I'd end up spending days tweaking the compression before just turning down the channel volume and throwing it in the endless "fuckups" directory. I think another synth would sound good and I do like the additional brightness from moving to C#.

03-22-2022, 04:35 PM	#5
BlissedandGone2 Minion of Satan Location: You don't play guitar hero if you are a guitar hero. Posts: 6,010	damn sounds good

03-22-2022, 05:19 PM	#7
spguitar0 Demi-God Posts: 487	Rough mix with a 1 take run of vocals https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iwy...ew?usp=sharing

03-22-2022, 06:58 PM	#9
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,901	I'm on the fourth listen of the "Rough mix w/ vocals" and I am really digging the overall recording. I will say I am not hearing much going on in the low end. The bass is nearly inaudible and I am listening on a set of adam a77x's with a sub. THe drumming and guitar work are phenomenal to me. Singing is good, could use better layering or some snarl to really give it some bite. During the a cappella breakdown part, the vocals are layered nearly identically so it gives it a sort of phasing sound that I didn't like. Would you ever entertain the idea of a remix project with the stems once you're finished with this track?

03-22-2022, 07:48 PM	#11
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,901	Experimenting with plugins and effects is the best way to find new sounds and techniques. I've listened to this track like 25 times now lol. Curious, is that pick squeal or trill at 1:14/15?

03-23-2022, 11:22 AM	#13
brothahi4L Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,714	Why copying a song almost one to one? It sounds reall good, but doing your own completely different version would be cooler

03-23-2022, 02:15 PM	#15
Spaceboy88 Apocalyptic Poster Location: NYC Posts: 1,556	At this point you should just record the entire Machina record and B-sides. It'll be done before the reissue.

03-28-2022, 01:24 AM	#18
spguitar0 Demi-God Posts: 487	Thanks for the advice on TEG guys. I took it all into consideration as I was recording the final vocal takes this weekend. It’s being sent off for Mastering by a Grammy nominated engineer. Will release it soon under the project name Pure as a Lie. Here’s what’s coming next: https://youtu.be/Rj6C4NpYf7Y

03-28-2022, 02:35 AM	#19
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,901	Sounds dope, but was hoping for a full on recording of MACHINA lol. Whats the goal of this project?

03-28-2022, 05:43 PM	#21
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,901	I'm all for that, I'd love to hear it.

03-29-2022, 07:53 AM	#22
brothahi4L Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,714	Good work dude. You should really do a whole machina album and then release it. Surely bill would tell the fbi. So take care

04-08-2022, 08:37 PM	#24
spguitar0 Demi-God Posts: 487	I started Luna. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcBn6..._web_copy_link This is a potential tracklist for the project. Thoughts? The Everlasting Gaze Tristessa The Beginning is the End is the Beginning (intro) The End is the Beginning is the End Tiberius Thirty Three Starla Geek USA Marchin’ On Gossamer(Acoustic) Shame Glass’ Theme Stellar Luna Jellybelly

05-03-2022, 02:38 AM	#27
spguitar0 Demi-God Posts: 487	Here’s a clip of Luna. I think it’s done. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CdFfs...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

05-06-2022, 09:57 AM	#30
spguitar0 Demi-God Posts: 487	Pre-save link for The Everlasting Gaze. https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/pu...erlasting-gaze