Gish or Zeitgeist?

brothergoddard · 03-13-2008, 03:46 PM

Gish- tracks 5-10 are hardly amazing

Zeitgeist- got its fair share of inferior songs

both are good solid albums but obviously not of the MCIS and SD quality, but which do you think is better? their first album or their latest?

Mo · 03-13-2008, 03:47 PM

That's a seriously retarded question.

rolmos · 03-13-2008, 03:47 PM

davin to thread

davin · 03-13-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rolmos

davin to thread

gish is my favorite pumpkins record.

its also my favorite record of all time, by any band ever. its my "desert island" record...and my "sitting on death row" record.

the music, the lyrics, the song-writing...its the "spirit of the time" for me, with emotional and personal connections galore.

laaazy · 03-13-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by davin

gish is my favorite pumpkins record.

its also my favorite record of all time, by any band ever. its my "desert island" record...and my "sitting on death row" record.

the music, the lyrics, the song-writing...its the "spirit of the time" for me, with emotional and personal connections galore.

exactly how i feel, weird

pete · 03-13-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by davin

gish is my favorite pumpkins record.

its also my favorite record of all time, by any band ever. its my "desert island" record...and my "sitting on death row" record.

the music, the lyrics, the song-writing...its the "spirit of the time" for me, with emotional and personal connections galore.

Crush, snail, suffer- never even began to do anything for me. Just a kind of hollow core to the album at tracks 5 6 7. Hence I voted Zeitgeist.

davin · 03-13-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pete

Crush, snail, suffer- never even began to do anything for me. Just a kind of hollow core to the album at tracks 5 6 7. Hence I voted Zeitgeist.

snail? really?

crush, suffer, window paine, daydream...i connected with all of them pretty hard because of some meloncholy things going on in my life in '92.

Kahlo · 03-14-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pete

Crush, snail, suffer- never even began to do anything for me. Just a kind of hollow core to the album at tracks 5 6 7. Hence I voted Zeitgeist.

Pete just made me die inside a little bit.

pete · 03-14-2008, 08:36 AM

I always give them another chance it seems...I put those 3 tracks on, and I suddenly realise I was meant to be listening to the music as soon as tristessa kicks in.

Luke de Spa · 03-14-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by davin

gish is my favorite pumpkins record.

its also my favorite record of all time, by any band ever. its my "desert island" record...and my "sitting on death row" record.

the music, the lyrics, the song-writing...its the "spirit of the time" for me, with emotional and personal connections galore.

yeah how about those lyrics.

jesus christ

davin · 03-15-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke de Spa

yeah how about those lyrics.

jesus christ

Luke de Spa · 03-15-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by davin

right, i forgot you think shit like this is clever and unbeatable

yoshinobu's revenge · 03-15-2008, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davin

gish is my favorite pumpkins record.

its also my favorite record of all time, by any band ever. its my "desert island" record...and my "sitting on death row" record.

the music, the lyrics, the song-writing...its the "spirit of the time" for me, with emotional and personal connections galore.

yup

i_adore_adore · 03-13-2008, 03:51 PM

Gish > SD

SD > Zeitgeist

brothergoddard · 03-13-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by i_adore_adore

Gish > SD

you are just flat wrong.

Eulogy · 03-13-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by i_adore_adore

Gish > SD

hahahaha

mojo · 03-13-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by i_adore_adore

Gish > SD

ce n'est pas vrai.

i_adore_adore · 03-13-2008, 03:56 PM

I disagree. Gish has that raw psychadelia that I love in music. Siamese Dream is freaking great, but compared to Gish it seems too overthought. Gish feels a lot more free to me.

And then there's Mellon Collie, the ultimate, perfect, jaw-droppingly delicious piece of art.

rolmos · 03-13-2008, 03:56 PM

Agreed

But Adore > Gish

And SD > Adore

.

brothergoddard · 03-13-2008, 04:00 PM

i agree that adore>gish, but still cant concede siamese dream to gish. I see what you mean about the rawness of the album, and as they are very different maybe comparison isnt fair, but from the moment cherub rock starts i am in rock nirvana.

comments of MCIS obviously true

brothergoddard · 03-13-2008, 04:04 PM

and hate to say it but today is probably my favourite SP song.

IWishIWasBlank · 03-16-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brothergoddard

I see what you mean about the rawness of the album (gish)

This is what made Gish so great. You probably won't hear another studio album with this type of content ever again. Labels won't allow it.

stumpycat · 03-16-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IWishIWasBlank

This is what made Gish so great. You probably won't hear another studio album with this type of content ever again. Labels won't allow it.

It's well produced rawness. That's why the production appears so "seamless" and really lets the instruments shine through.

i_adore_adore · 03-13-2008, 04:06 PM

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And SD > Adore

NUH-UUUUUUUUH!

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i agree that adore>gish, but still cant concede siamese dream to gish. I see what you mean about the rawness of the album, and as they are very different maybe comparison isnt fair, but from the moment cherub rock starts i am in rock nirvana.

comments of MCIS obviously true

It is really hard to say which SP albums are "better" than which, because they really are all very different. It all comes down to personal taste.

My friends make fun of me and ask me all the time, "Are the Pumpkins the only band you listen to?" (they're not, for the record...) But really, they've been so stylistically diverse that I feel like I can put a Pumpkins album on no matter what mood I'm in. I can't say that about a lot of bands. There are definitely days that I'd rather listen to SD than Gish, but overall I find myself enjoying Gish more.

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and hate to say it but today is probably my favourite SP song.

Now see, I've never really been crazy about Today. It was one of the first songs I heard by the Pumpkins (I downloaded a bunch of random tunes when I first got into them), and even before I knew it was "uncool" to love "Today," I didn't really like it. I didn't DISLIKE it, but it never did much for me.

different strokes for different folks.

Quiet CD · 03-13-2008, 04:08 PM

Can someone get banned for utter stupidity?

or trolling which this very well might be...

davin · 03-13-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet CD

Can someone get banned for utter stupidity?

or trolling which this very well might be...

if so, there wouldn't be many of us left.

greedo · 03-13-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by i_adore_adore

My friends make fun of me and ask me all the time, "Are the Pumpkins the only band you listen to?" (they're not, for the record...) But really, they've been so stylistically diverse that I feel like I can put a Pumpkins album on no matter what mood I'm in.

The same happens to me too...it probably doesn't help that I also listen to a hell of a lot of Zwan and occasionally Billy's solo album.

From what I've heard of it, the new REM album is going to take over in a couple of weeks though...

cork_soaker · 03-15-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by i_adore_adore

NUH-UUUUUUUUH!

It is really hard to say which SP albums are "better" than which, because they really are all very different. It all comes down to personal taste.

My friends make fun of me and ask me all the time, "Are the Pumpkins the only band you listen to?" (they're not, for the record...) But really, they've been so stylistically diverse that I feel like I can put a Pumpkins album on no matter what mood I'm in. I can't say that about a lot of bands. There are definitely days that I'd rather listen to SD than Gish, but overall I find myself enjoying Gish more.

Now see, I've never really been crazy about Today. It was one of the first songs I heard by the Pumpkins (I downloaded a bunch of random tunes when I first got into them), and even before I knew it was "uncool" to love "Today," I didn't really like it. I didn't DISLIKE it, but it never did much for me.

different strokes for different folks.

but how do you feel about adore?

brothergoddard · 03-13-2008, 04:09 PM

absolutely can put on an album whenever, they have songs for all moods, and true it does ultimately all come down to personal taste.

ouch the poll seems conclusive are you guys not zeitgeist fans?

redbull · 03-13-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brothergoddard

absolutely can put on an album whenever, they have songs for all moods, and true it does ultimately all come down to personal taste.

ouch the poll seems conclusive are you guys not zeitgeist fans?

eat shit

View Poll Results: Gish or Zeitgeist
Gish	158	74.53%
Zeitgeist	54	25.47%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

03-13-2008, 03:46 PM	#1
brothergoddard Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 14	Gish or Zeitgeist? Gish- tracks 5-10 are hardly amazing Zeitgeist- got its fair share of inferior songs both are good solid albums but obviously not of the MCIS and SD quality, but which do you think is better? their first album or their latest?

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03-13-2008, 03:47 PM	#2
Mo Immortal Posts: 20,964	That's a seriously retarded question.

03-13-2008, 03:47 PM	#3
rolmos Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,349	davin to thread

03-14-2008, 08:36 AM	#9
pete Apocalyptic Poster Location: London Posts: 1,597	I always give them another chance it seems...I put those 3 tracks on, and I suddenly realise I was meant to be listening to the music as soon as tristessa kicks in.

03-13-2008, 03:51 PM	#14
i_adore_adore Apocalyptic Poster Location: IL Posts: 3,559	Gish > SD SD > Zeitgeist

03-13-2008, 03:56 PM	#18
i_adore_adore Apocalyptic Poster Location: IL Posts: 3,559	I disagree. Gish has that raw psychadelia that I love in music. Siamese Dream is freaking great, but compared to Gish it seems too overthought. Gish feels a lot more free to me. And then there's Mellon Collie, the ultimate, perfect, jaw-droppingly delicious piece of art.

03-13-2008, 04:00 PM	#20
brothergoddard Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 14	i agree that adore>gish, but still cant concede siamese dream to gish. I see what you mean about the rawness of the album, and as they are very different maybe comparison isnt fair, but from the moment cherub rock starts i am in rock nirvana. comments of MCIS obviously true

03-13-2008, 04:04 PM	#21
brothergoddard Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 14	and hate to say it but today is probably my favourite SP song.

03-13-2008, 04:08 PM	#25
Quiet CD Apocalyptic Poster Location: wherever you aren't Posts: 3,239	Can someone get banned for utter stupidity? or trolling which this very well might be...

03-13-2008, 04:09 PM	#29
brothergoddard Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 14	absolutely can put on an album whenever, they have songs for all moods, and true it does ultimately all come down to personal taste. ouch the poll seems conclusive are you guys not zeitgeist fans?