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Old 10-05-2022, 01:03 PM   #91
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I’d rather they experiment with older songs and deviate from the album versions. I like this version of IotM. No need for them to play it exactly like 2000. Play the new stuff straight and drop Today, Disarm, Cherub, BWBW for some deeper cuts.

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 01:59 PM   #92
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I’m telling you in person it wasn’t very good.

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 02:19 PM   #93
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Jesus Christ imagine if they played in the arms of sleep… society would immediately restore

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 08:41 PM   #94
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would die hearing arms of sleep. w/ james on slide....

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tbh it sounds better knowing james is playing it. placebic as that is

 
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Old 10-05-2022, 10:37 PM   #95
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would die hearing arms of sleep. w/ james on slide....





well i've embarrassed myself!

tbh it sounds better knowing james is playing it. placebic as that is
That light board pretty cool

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:03 AM   #96
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Place started to clear during silverfuck tonight neophyte felt embarrassing to an emptying arena and harmageddon was meh. BC is struggling vocally. Jack and Jeff seemed pissed all night. James sang hotel California

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:55 AM   #97
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Did they do an encore or end with Harmageddon?

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:53 AM   #98
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lol i hope JC and iha are in good spirits

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 10:07 AM   #99
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No encore- ended with harmageddon.

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 10:37 AM   #100
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Did they really play Hotel California last night in Austin? Lol

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 10:47 AM   #101
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A bit of it. Before tonight tonight billy started picking the chords. James said that one sounded familiar- he thinks he saw it on youtube. BC says 'no i wrote this.' BC speaks the first couple lines, james starts to sing and admits he doesnt know the words as well as don henley. they strum through part of the chorus then BC then asks is it weird they are playing a song about california in texas? No, because everyone in cali has moved here

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 11:02 AM   #102
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Oh ok. That actually sounds fun. I saw it on the online setlist and assumed it was genuine as it didn’t note otherwise

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:42 PM   #103
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Place started to clear during silverfuck tonight neophyte felt embarrassing to an emptying arena and harmageddon was meh. BC is struggling vocally. Jack and Jeff seemed pissed all night. James sang hotel California
you're not gonna mention the totally ripping heavy metal "Once in a Lifetime"?

the audience looked so confused but I loved it

the whole show had a classic Pumpkins playfulness, staged or not, it was fun again

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:45 PM   #104
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the Texas banter was genuinely a funny moment

and when the audience boo'd Billy responded with a "We love you" not combative at all

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:50 PM   #105
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a lot of the show Billy was just yelling into the mic which sounded so much better than the vibrato thing

a lot more growls and screams than I expected

the heavy songs actually work with Jimmy back...idk this was the best of the 3 times I've seen them

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:09 PM   #106
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a lot of the show Billy was just yelling into the mic which sounded so much better than the vibrato thing

a lot more growls and screams than I expected

the heavy songs actually work with Jimmy back...idk this was the best of the 3 times I've seen them
They’ve been routinely amazing live, imo, since iha and jim chimbs returned. Makes these new recordings all the more confounding: why oh why don’t these dumb dicks just jam live and roll tape? Even if we want to smother it in synths get some other dumb dick to do keyboards live? Why must we suffer these horrible recordings???

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 03:50 PM   #107
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I didn’t absolutely love the SP performance. I enjoyed it, sure, but I’ve seen them so many times in the last few years this one didn’t register near the top- the San Antonio show this May probably takes top notch.

I was very impressed with Jane’s. As they left the stage I said to the lady next to me that it was going to be a hard act to follow.

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 05:01 PM   #108
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They weren’t amazing in Houston. One of the weakest sets I’ve seen them play. By the numbers hits and crappy new songs. They play like a band that hasn’t jammed in the same room together for years. Billy wandering the stage aimlessly looking like he didn’t know what to do with himself half the time. It was embarrassing.

Jane’s absolutely spanked them. They play like a well oiled machine from start to finish. They seem like a cohesive unit that actually enjoys playing music together. They decimated SP. It wasn’t even close.

SP seems like a bunch of people who are scared of Billy are being held hostage. Blink three times if you need help Jeff!

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 05:21 PM   #109
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I didn’t absolutely love the SP performance. I enjoyed it, sure, but I’ve seen them so many times in the last few years this one didn’t register near the top- the San Antonio show this May probably takes top notch.

I was very impressed with Jane’s. As they left the stage I said to the lady next to me that it was going to be a hard act to follow.
And what did the lady next to u say in response

And did u respond or just nod and/or smile and/or tip your stetson

Finally, did u share any further camradie with the lady next door

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 07:18 PM   #110
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you're not gonna mention the totally ripping heavy metal "Once in a Lifetime"?

the audience looked so confused but I loved it

the whole show had a classic Pumpkins playfulness, staged or not, it was fun again
saw them in may, that was definitely the vibe. classic banter

thankfully the shows aren't being timed to minute, broadway style anymore

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 07:20 PM   #111
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They weren’t amazing in Houston. One of the weakest sets I’ve seen them play. By the numbers hits and crappy new songs. They play like a band that hasn’t jammed in the same room together for years. Billy wandering the stage aimlessly looking like he didn’t know what to do with himself half the time. It was embarrassing.

Jane’s absolutely spanked them. They play like a well oiled machine from start to finish. They seem like a cohesive unit that actually enjoys playing music together. They decimated SP. It wasn’t even close.

SP seems like a bunch of people who are scared of Billy are being held hostage. Blink three times if you need help Jeff!
i saw dino jr last weekend and jesus christ. the VIBE felt like a real band should be. J's guitar sounded fucking massive, excellent, legendary.

versus SP which is kinda like...dry? you can't enjoy it like a normal rock show, you have to know about zuzu's and liveone to get what's happening

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:02 PM   #112
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I bet that Dino Jr. show was rad. Yeah the SP performances since the Shiny tour have all seemed really canned and overly mannered. No energy, playing to a click track, using backing tracks. Just seems like they’re phoning it in. It goes along with Billy thinking they’re a Broadway show now or whatever.

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:19 PM   #113
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This shit is subjective. This band X is better than this band Y and so on. If someone likes another band more, maybe they should spend more of their time on that band's message boards.

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:24 PM   #114
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I didn’t absolutely love the SP performance. I enjoyed it, sure, but I’ve seen them so many times in the last few years this one didn’t register near the top- the San Antonio show this May probably takes top notch.

I was very impressed with Jane’s. As they left the stage I said to the lady next to me that it was going to be a hard act to follow.
I was bored AF during Jane's performance except for the hits

 
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This shit is subjective. This band X is better than this band Y and so on. If someone likes another band more, maybe they should spend more of their time on that band's message boards.
How is it you’ve been here 10 years and u still haven’t noticed that this board is a mutual peer-support network for longsuffering fans to work through the various stages of grief over this band that once was, and that once meant so much to us

This work is difficult, and it can even be messy sometimes. But it is well worth the effort, and i for one have made great progress in my universal acceptances

 
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How is it you’ve been here 10 years and u still haven’t noticed that this board is a mutual peer-support network for longsuffering fans to work through the various stages of grief over this band that once was, and that once meant so much to us

This work is difficult, and it can even be messy sometimes. But it is well worth the effort, and i for one have made great progress in my universal acceptances
Don't you remember though back in the 90s when the Pumpkins were at their peak that they still had a large group of people that hated their sound? It's entirely possible that the some of the people that loved them then hate them now for the same reasons.

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 09:13 PM   #117
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I was bored AF during Jane's performance except for the hits
Yeah but you’re Elphenor who is pretentious af and we should take everything you say with a giant grain of salt.

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 09:47 PM   #118
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I was at a Smashing Pumpkins show...

 
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Old 10-06-2022, 10:46 PM   #119
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how was it

 
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Don't you remember though back in the 90s when the Pumpkins were at their peak that they still had a large group of people that hated their sound? It's entirely possible that the some of the people that loved them then hate them now for the same reasons.

 
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