Machina reissue a go - Page 17

Jules · 10-23-2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

I'll believe the tracklist once it is on Amazon. Until then I think he will be playing around with formats / lengths, but until then I don't think anything will be set in stone.

You mean later when he rage tweets about Amazon leaking the tracklist sooner than it's set in stone?

soniclovenoize · 10-23-2018, 09:58 AM

He could easily do what was done on the new White Album box set, where aside from the six main audio discs, it includes a Blu-Ray that just has the 5.1 and original mono mixes.

So he could go two discs of the main reconstructed album, two discs of session outtakes/demos/etc, a live DVD and a Blu-Ray of remastered original Machina 1 and 2 for completists.

Kahlo · 10-23-2018, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

You mean later when he rage tweets about Amazon leaking the tracklist sooner than it's set in stone?

Fair enough. This happened to me with Amazon (before I released something) and it IS extremely annoying.

Funbags · 10-23-2018, 10:11 AM

Can someone with IG ask him about improved mixes of White Spider and Real Love?

SOMEONE ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS #NERDALERT

Kahlo · 10-23-2018, 10:17 AM

Why can't you do it? Did he block you?

Funbags · 10-23-2018, 10:38 AM

I don't ~~want~~ have Instagram

Kahlo · 10-23-2018, 10:40 AM

Just get it or I'll ask questions for $50 per question.

dustrocck · 10-23-2018, 10:50 AM

Agree with all who are saying this is by far the most anticipated reissue.

FoolofaTook · 10-23-2018, 11:05 AM

yeah you monte and the sad machines are busting hernias over this

dustrocck · 10-23-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

yeah you monte and the sad machines are busting hernias over this

I really am. The surgery didn't take the first time when he announced the reissues, and the instagram news just finished me off.

Shadaloo · 10-23-2018, 12:54 PM

I'm excited, right down to the weird boner.

Zer0 Hour · 10-23-2018, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize

He could easily do what was done on the new White Album box set, where aside from the six main audio discs, it includes a Blu-Ray that just has the 5.1 and original mono mixes.

So he could go two discs of the main reconstructed album, two discs of session outtakes/demos/etc, a live DVD and a Blu-Ray of remastered original Machina 1 and 2 for completists.

Given Billy's political leanings, I wouldn't be surprised if his next LP is literally called The White Album.

tweedyburd · 02:34 PM

Wait, so the final metro show is going to be released separately or perhaps not at all? W.T.F. How many times has that motherfucker said it would come out with this reissue?!

Seriously don't understand his thinking, it's really like he's intentionally fucking with a portion of old fans and their expectations. Unless there's something we don't know about. This was 50% of the reason to buy a deluxe version of this reissue.

Super bummed. He's gotta know that people are jonesing for it and would pay more for this reissue to get it.

Fuck.

Kahlo · 10-23-2018, 01:27 PM

Those people should group together and see how much money they can raise to bring it out of the archive.

Mals Marola · 10-23-2018, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funbags

Can someone with IG ask him about improved mixes of White Spider and Real Love?

SOMEONE ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS #NERDALERT

The whole of Machina II is going to be remixed for the "conceptual completion" but original M2 is planned for inclusion on a bonus disc, is what I gathered from a recent IG answer of his

FoolofaTook · 10-23-2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadaloo

I'm excited, right down to the weird boner.

story of my life

jimmy drevpile · 10-23-2018, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

Ridiculously excited about the Machina re-issue. This is the one I've been waiting on. Even a couple of extra tracks / alt versions and I'd be happy.

This.

Mals Marola · 10-23-2018, 02:02 PM

That.

Zer0 Hour · 10-23-2018, 02:26 PM

Oooohhh maybe we'll get a special version of Glass and the Heavy Metal Machines (Spacey) which features an epic 12 minute therapy session, wherein Billy describes how the voice of God has instructed him to punish his fans by writing intentionally shitty music.

NovaFritz · 10-23-2018, 02:26 PM

I think that the only interesting stuff we will get is up to five actually interesting new tracks or versions. There is no way that retooling or remixing will improve anything. Just think of the newer mixes of Starla, Glynis, and the other early songs.

If this were 2000-2002 there may have been a chance that remixing would improve, but in 2018/2019 not a chance.

VoxUpDoc · 10-23-2018, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweedyburd

Wait, so the final metro show is going to be released separately or perhaps not at all? W.T.F. How many times has that motherfucker said it would come out with this reissue?!

Seriously don't understand his thinking, it's really like he's intentionally fucking with a portion of old fans and their expectations. Unless there's something we don't know about. This was 50% of the reason to buy a deluxe version of this reissue.

Super bummed and pissed about that. He's gotta know that people are cl******g for it and would pay more for this reissue to get it.

This is exactly why. Billy knows the type of fan who wants the Metro show, and that’s why we still haven’t seen it.

Zer0 Hour · 10-23-2018, 02:33 PM

Ah, yes. The "fans who live in the past" or whatever bullshit he's always griping about. If he'd actually come down off his fucking high horse for five minutes, maybe he'd actually appreciate that there are people out there who love his old music, even if they can't connect with the copious amounts of mediocre crap he's put out since 2004. But nah, if you don't like ALL my music than FUCK YOU! I'm a genius and you just don't understand me!

FoolofaTook · 10-23-2018, 02:38 PM

yeah billco doesn't realize how much we love him, still after everything. i mean i listened to that live concert on the TAFH reissue and it was like i was back in my psychopumpkinhead days.

FoolofaTook · 10-23-2018, 02:38 PM

dude can shred

tweedyburd · 10-23-2018, 02:39 PM

So passive aggressively dicking over a good portion of the base simply because they're asking for the one thing he's dangled and promised for years is more desirable than just releasing the thing and making extra money on it. Awesome.

Zer0 Hour · 10-23-2018, 02:43 PM

Billy is like George Lucas refusing to ever release the original versions of the Star Wars trilogy on Blu-Ray and DVD (you know, the ones without all of his late 90s/early 2000s “enhancements”). An egotistical, narcissistic asshole so desperate to prove that he’s a genius that he’s willing to troll his own fans.

tweedyburd · 10-23-2018, 02:44 PM

Homeboy just completed the most shamelessly sentimental and nostalgic reunion tour imaginable, so the "stuck in the past" mentality doesn't compute.

I wonder if it's something to do with the venue itself (see other thread).

Zer0 Hour · 10-23-2018, 02:47 PM

Yeah but see, according to Billy, he respects the past but doesn’t live in it (or something like that). See, he couldn’t pass up the $$$ that a reunion tour would get him but he probably figures that something like the Metro show is more of a niche thing with older fans and far less lucrative for him personally, so you know, screw the people that have been asking for it.

MonumentsRocks · 10-23-2018, 02:49 PM

Sometimes I think Billy is trying to show us how he was emotionally abused by example.

soniclovenoize · 10-23-2018, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funbags

Can someone with IG ask him about improved mixes of White Spider and Real Love?

SOMEONE ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS #NERDALERT

He already said they were only rough mixes, and that they'll be remixed.

10-23-2018, 01:26 PM	#493
tweedyburd Ownz Location: greensboro, nc U.S. Posts: 720	Wait, so the final metro show is going to be released separately or perhaps not at all? W.T.F. How many times has that motherfucker said it would come out with this reissue?! Seriously don't understand his thinking, it's really like he's intentionally fucking with a portion of old fans and their expectations. Unless there's something we don't know about. This was 50% of the reason to buy a deluxe version of this reissue. Super bummed. He's gotta know that people are jonesing for it and would pay more for this reissue to get it. Fuck. Last edited by tweedyburd : 10-23-2018 at 02:34 PM.

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10-23-2018, 09:58 AM	#482
soniclovenoize Minion of Satan Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,595	He could easily do what was done on the new White Album box set, where aside from the six main audio discs, it includes a Blu-Ray that just has the 5.1 and original mono mixes. So he could go two discs of the main reconstructed album, two discs of session outtakes/demos/etc, a live DVD and a Blu-Ray of remastered original Machina 1 and 2 for completists.

10-23-2018, 10:11 AM	#484
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,425	Can someone with IG ask him about improved mixes of White Spider and Real Love? SOMEONE ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS #NERDALERT

10-23-2018, 10:17 AM	#485
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Why can't you do it? Did he block you?

10-23-2018, 10:38 AM	#486
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,425	I don't ~~want~~ have Instagram

10-23-2018, 10:40 AM	#487
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Just get it or I'll ask questions for $50 per question.

10-23-2018, 10:50 AM	#488
dustrocck Demi-God Posts: 494	Agree with all who are saying this is by far the most anticipated reissue.

10-23-2018, 11:05 AM	#489
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	yeah you monte and the sad machines are busting hernias over this

10-23-2018, 12:54 PM	#491
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	I'm excited, right down to the weird boner.

10-23-2018, 01:27 PM	#494
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Those people should group together and see how much money they can raise to bring it out of the archive.

10-23-2018, 02:02 PM	#498
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	That.

10-23-2018, 02:26 PM	#499
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Oooohhh maybe we'll get a special version of Glass and the Heavy Metal Machines (Spacey) which features an epic 12 minute therapy session, wherein Billy describes how the voice of God has instructed him to punish his fans by writing intentionally shitty music.

10-23-2018, 02:26 PM	#500
NovaFritz Apocalyptic Poster Location: luna Posts: 2,721	I think that the only interesting stuff we will get is up to five actually interesting new tracks or versions. There is no way that retooling or remixing will improve anything. Just think of the newer mixes of Starla, Glynis, and the other early songs. If this were 2000-2002 there may have been a chance that remixing would improve, but in 2018/2019 not a chance.

10-23-2018, 02:33 PM	#502
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Ah, yes. The "fans who live in the past" or whatever bullshit he's always griping about. If he'd actually come down off his fucking high horse for five minutes, maybe he'd actually appreciate that there are people out there who love his old music, even if they can't connect with the copious amounts of mediocre crap he's put out since 2004. But nah, if you don't like ALL my music than FUCK YOU! I'm a genius and you just don't understand me!

10-23-2018, 02:38 PM	#503
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	yeah billco doesn't realize how much we love him, still after everything. i mean i listened to that live concert on the TAFH reissue and it was like i was back in my psychopumpkinhead days.

10-23-2018, 02:38 PM	#504
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	dude can shred

10-23-2018, 02:39 PM	#505
tweedyburd Ownz Location: greensboro, nc U.S. Posts: 720	So passive aggressively dicking over a good portion of the base simply because they're asking for the one thing he's dangled and promised for years is more desirable than just releasing the thing and making extra money on it. Awesome.

10-23-2018, 02:43 PM	#506
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Billy is like George Lucas refusing to ever release the original versions of the Star Wars trilogy on Blu-Ray and DVD (you know, the ones without all of his late 90s/early 2000s “enhancements”). An egotistical, narcissistic asshole so desperate to prove that he’s a genius that he’s willing to troll his own fans.

10-23-2018, 02:44 PM	#507
tweedyburd Ownz Location: greensboro, nc U.S. Posts: 720	Homeboy just completed the most shamelessly sentimental and nostalgic reunion tour imaginable, so the "stuck in the past" mentality doesn't compute. I wonder if it's something to do with the venue itself (see other thread).

10-23-2018, 02:47 PM	#508
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Yeah but see, according to Billy, he respects the past but doesn’t live in it (or something like that). See, he couldn’t pass up the $$$ that a reunion tour would get him but he probably figures that something like the Metro show is more of a niche thing with older fans and far less lucrative for him personally, so you know, screw the people that have been asking for it.

10-23-2018, 02:49 PM	#509
MonumentsRocks Ownz Posts: 633	Sometimes I think Billy is trying to show us how he was emotionally abused by example.