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06-04-2020, 01:24 AM | #1 |
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The moment I figured out why Mike had to leave the band
He was too much for, Billy. It's all drumming.
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06-07-2020, 12:58 AM | #2 |
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06-07-2020, 02:07 AM | #3 |
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yeah. i mean he's 19 and good enough to, like, technically pull that stuff off
there's like 80% too much bullshit going on with the drums the guitars sounded really nice |
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06-07-2020, 02:32 AM | #4 | |
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I also remember seeing a clip from a really small gathering with Dave Navarro. I can't find it online, but they're in what looks like a restaurant. It's a really tight space. The last song, Mike goes on a huge solo/outro, and Billy and Dave look at each other like WTF. In a good way, but you could tell they were not used to it. |
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06-07-2020, 11:52 AM | #5 | |
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lol i found this while googling various permutations of 'billy corgan skychildren'
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06-07-2020, 12:14 PM | #6 |
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Billy Corgan abused this poor kid and it remains one of the most heinous things he’s done. Forcing him to get cortisone shots in his hands just to play, kicking him out of the band and then subsequently shitting all over him, when the initial hiring was nothing but a publicity stunt anyway, it’s disgusting
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06-07-2020, 12:19 PM | #7 |
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yep. probably killed any career he would have had
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06-07-2020, 02:20 PM | #8 |
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The kid was a sick drummer and he can do stuff that 98% of drummers can’t do. I still maintain that the show I saw on the Oceania tour was better than three with Jimmy I saw after he rejoined.
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06-07-2020, 03:28 PM | #9 |
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holy hell this sweater |
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06-07-2020, 03:50 PM | #10 |
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06-07-2020, 09:10 PM | #11 |
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https://trendcelebsnow.com/mike-byrne-net-worth/
"How many relationships did He have? He had at least 1 relationship in the past. Why is Mike Byrne famous? Mike Byrne become popular for being a successful Drummer. Facts About Mike Byrne Mike Byrne's age 29 years old. Birthday February 6, 1990. Birth Sign Aquarius. He was featured on The Smashing Pumpkins’ 2009 album Teargarden by Kaleidyscope." |
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06-07-2020, 09:19 PM | #12 |
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Where's the source about Mike having to get cortisone shots to continue playing?
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06-07-2020, 09:20 PM | #13 |
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How many times do you think Mike jerked off in his bunk thinking about seeing Nicole’s breasts as she slept underneath
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06-07-2020, 09:32 PM | #14 |
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they were bunkies?
did the bald lord keep his underlings in a dorm? |
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06-07-2020, 10:39 PM | #15 | ||
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war stories like these fuck me up. the whole 'something i love is hell on earth now' tour bus situation |
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06-08-2020, 12:34 AM | #16 |
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and all of that for what?
Oceania was an extremely mediocre album. |
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06-08-2020, 02:52 AM | #17 |
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Yeah big willies mediocre songs really held Byrnes back as a drummer and a musician. This good hearted innocent chinned kid, the most wonderful drummer in the world, tried to save the record, killed his wrists into cement mixers that’s how hard he tried, but big willie wouldn’t let him save it.
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06-08-2020, 10:07 AM | #18 |
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Mike's drumming suited the times, but Billy's songwriting did not.
It seems like Billy gave up at one point and just said "Play like Peter Criss". |
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06-08-2020, 11:42 AM | #19 |
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Sometime ago someone made a "blind listening" thing.. Clips of, I think, Cherub Rock played by every drummer the bands ever had. Most people had Jimmy down as best, Mikey down as 2nd best.
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06-08-2020, 12:06 PM | #20 |
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I want to hear this.
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06-08-2020, 12:08 PM | #21 |
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I do not.
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06-08-2020, 12:08 PM | #22 |
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yeah i feel like even Walker on his worst night was better than Byrney on his best (sorry Mike, that's just how the dice roll!)
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06-08-2020, 01:32 PM | #23 | |
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I disliked the idea of Byrne, that Jimmy could be replaced by a kid, that Billy was going to groom and bully this poor boy, etc., etc., but I can't say I actually noticed anything to hate about his drumming. Lots of people who play drums would point out problems in his technique or times he'd hit the snare at the wrong moment or something and I'd be like, "Yeah, fuck this guy" because I'm easily swayed, but in my own listening it was just like "This is fine." And of course now that he posts here, I've gotten to know him and like him as a human being. We salute you, thedeadofnight. |
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06-08-2020, 03:00 PM | #24 |
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As a drummer I noticed a lot of flaws in his technique for sure, but I noticed a lot of passion, too. His age played into a lot of the issues I had with his drumming. Nerves, being anxious and overwhelmed contributed to some of the negative sides of his performances. Ultimately, he wasn't a good fit for the Pumpkins as they have a very structured sense of chaos that is organic to BC/JC. It's hard to emulate that naturally.
I'm an OG fan, but I never got to see them back in their prime. I was far too young and they just didn't tour much around here. Out of Mike, Jimmy and Brad Wilk I am actually shocked to say Mike was the most energetic live? I went to roughly 12 shows during the mike era, 6 for Jimmy and once with Brad as their drummer. I think Brad is a good drummer, but Rage groves are nothing like SP. It was hard to sit through that show it was so bad, but so was Billy, etc. Jimmy is a phenomenal player, undoubtedly, but The End Times tour and the Shiny and Oh So Bright tours were very, very bad. Billy and Jimmy's interaction during the 2018 show made me think they genuinely dislike each other. I guess my perspective is skewed because I have listened to every OG live show/bootleg to death. Mike's sloppily sped up and teetering on the edge of derailment style was entertaining live. For what it's worth its seemed to have gotten way better in 2019. Also, what was the name of the drummer before Brad Wilk? The one that spoiled the set/rehearsal list and was fired. |
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06-08-2020, 03:30 PM | #25 |
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I've seen SP with each of Billy's drummers. Mike was the worst. But Billy had a some amazing drummers work for him so it's not that bad to be the worst Drummer in SP.
I would put the secondary percussionists from the Adore tour ahead of Mike if I had to rank SP drummers. Billy abused that poor kid. He has lots of talent but is also seems to have no touch and back in the Oceania days would just bash the fuck out of his kit during live shows. His timing was often off too. His style just doesn't suit either the old songs or the later ones. Somewhere I have a pic I took of Mike and Matt Walker together back in Chicago in 2011...... |
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06-08-2020, 03:41 PM | #26 |
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matt walker tsp was BOSS. even tho it was post-zenith shit still slayed.
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06-08-2020, 07:02 PM | #27 |
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post-zenith...? Matt Walker played with them in 1997
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06-08-2020, 07:08 PM | #28 |
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06-08-2020, 07:20 PM | #29 |
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Matt is a great honorary pumpkin.
I'd rank him alongside Melissa as the two best non original members. |
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06-08-2020, 07:20 PM | #30 |
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Nicole was great too, tho.
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