Okay, Beguiled actually kicks ass

[Gavvvvvin]

Billy is old and doesn't give a fuck anymore. Music is nothing more than another hobby to him. The end.

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by Bleakest Harves

I think you're right here. There is no secret missing ingredient to explain Billy's inability to write a decent song any more. He just lost it and that's it.

I distinctly remember when Zeitgeist came out and everyone here was shitting on it mercilessly. A common narrative at the time was that Billy needed Iha's input and without him the Pumpkins magic was lost. Well, Zeitgeist had many problems but it absolutely shits all over Shiny and Cyr. So much for Iha's return. If D'Arcy was back in the fold I doubt it would change anything, because the sad fact is that Billy has slowly lost his creative spark over the past few decades.

Iha hasn’t returned. He and Jimmy turn up for the Billy cheques.

[s0ss]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

He's releasing 43 songs. The b sides are part of them album now.

Originally Posted by slunken

this goes

goes where?

[Butt Pope]

If a six week no-album-to-promote arena tour with a tired opener, wrapping up right before the holidays isn’t a cash grab, I don’t know what is. Hopefully the checks from live nation clear before Christmas

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by Gavvvvvin

Billy is old and doesn't give a fuck anymore. Music is nothing more than another hobby to him. The end.

Billy is old and doesn't give a fuck anymore. Music is nothing more than another hobby sustainable business to him. The end.

[incubator]

That can't be true. I'm sure there's better ways for him to make money than releasing 20+ song albums every year that no one buys.

[TheAlter]

Atum's limited edition is priced at 499, limited to 1333 numbered copies. That makes $665,167 for a pre-order business model. Worth a try innit

[eviltimeban]

What would Billy have to do to earn some serious wedge? Even if he made a classic sounding SP album, albums don't sell enough anymore to make that kind of money.

He can't do a "reunion" tour, as he's already done that and they are touring now as the "reformed" band. Bringing D'Arcy back would hardly result in thousands of ticket sales at this stage.

No, all he do is carry on and put out what he records and we have to presume the money he makes from the current tours is enough to keep him going, that and his back royalties and whatever money he made / invested in the 90s (which was probably an awful lot).

[incubator]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

Atum's limited edition is priced at 499, limited to 1333 numbered copies. That makes $665,167 for a pre-order business model. Worth a try innit

WPC personally is coming out with less than $100k from that right ? I could make more by selling dogs.

[TheAlter]

lol 100k? u think it's gonna be be shared equally between all the members?

Stay away from the larger breeds, bud. they'll eat you alive

[incubator]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

No, all he do is carry on and put out what he records and we have to presume the money he makes from the current tours is enough to keep him going, that and his back royalties and whatever money he made / invested in the 90s (which was probably an awful lot).

He could spend a lot less time and effort doing it.

[eviltimeban]

Yes but he obviously needs to keep doing it in order to make money. Perhaps his funds are tied up in such a way that he needs a regular income stream.

But why he doesn't go direct to consumer with the likes of Bandcamp is beyond me.

[killtrocity]

I'm seeing GLOW, Solara, and Feelalo

Should I go onto page 4?

[Squish Squash]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

I'm seeing GLOW, Solara, and Feelalo

Should I go onto page 4?

It sounds like Solara, yeah. The music video is worth watching if for no other reason than to see Billy looking like a bald pennywise, as one user put it

[Butt Pope]

Isn’t it clear now that arena tours every few years are part of Billy’s income plan now?

[killtrocity]

ok I went from page 1 to 4 then said fuck this and worked backwards from 14 to 10. I give up. Why aren't you degenerates committing felonies anymore so I can listen to stolen music?

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by Squish Squash

It sounds like Solara, yeah. The music video is worth watching if for no other reason than to see Billy looking like a bald pennywise, as one user put it

WHERE IS THE LEAK

[brothahi4L]

Bill lost the magic and doesnt work on songs as he did in the 90s....
Just writes some songs and releases them. Fukn sad machines would buy anything for any price.
Dead dad rock

[Joey Goldberg]

did you guys really generate 14 pages of this?

[Joey Goldberg]

fuckin'

thing

sucks!






..............................Hooray!

[topleybird]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

WHERE IS THE LEAK

What are you looking for? Are you saying you just want to hear Beguiled? Honey, it's on Spotify. It's on YouTube. It was officially released days ago. Please take a deep breath, sit down if you aren't already, try to relax your shoulders and jaw. It's all okay. Everything is okay. You're safe.

[Squish Squash]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

ok I went from page 1 to 4 then said fuck this and worked backwards from 14 to 10. I give up. Why aren't you degenerates committing felonies anymore so I can listen to stolen music?

Edit: nvm Topley posted it

[Joey Goldberg]

Walter wants the album

he's a next-level masochist and simply wants the whole 33-track behemoth immediately from the group who brought you Beguiled & thought it would be a good idea to record many, many more tracks presumably along the same lines, production & songwriting quality of Beguiled

let 'em have it, i say!

[Joey Goldberg]

you know what, fuck it

i'm going to b like the hero who broke into Wretzky's house once upon a time & stole Mashed Potatoes

[Squish Squash]

Walter White is more of a CCR guy I think. I can see Jane (Jesse’s girlfriend) listening to SP though.

[Joey Goldberg]

might be a little difficult for her to do that, considering, you know...

[Squish Squash]

Yeah well she did when she was alive damn it.

[Joey Goldberg]

so, turns out D'arcy Wretzky is not in the Smashing Pumpkins any more - who woulda thought???

so i will not be breaking into her home tonight to steal this record

the mission shifts now to someone willing to break & enter the Corgan/Mode household and I will not be that guy

[Joey Goldberg]

[houseofglass11]

BC: RESTORE THE FAITH!

Net4ya: No.