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06-22-2022, 04:11 PM | #91 |
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06-22-2022, 04:21 PM | #92 |
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06-22-2022, 04:49 PM | #93 |
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06-22-2022, 04:50 PM | #94 |
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Of course he’s not.
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06-22-2022, 05:31 PM | #95 |
Socialphobic
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would a racists dress in blackface? would they?
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06-22-2022, 05:48 PM | #96 |
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Lmao did you just compare crossdressers to racists wearing blackface?
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06-22-2022, 06:40 PM | #97 |
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This place is unhinged.
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06-22-2022, 06:43 PM | #98 |
Socialphobic
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06-22-2022, 06:44 PM | #99 |
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would a bigot think a bigot is a bigot?
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06-22-2022, 06:44 PM | #100 |
Socialphobic
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obviously a bigot.
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06-22-2022, 07:04 PM | #101 | |
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06-22-2022, 07:26 PM | #102 |
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he said he/she/it
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06-22-2022, 07:29 PM | #103 |
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Maybe so. There's no doubt he was being an absolute dick and those comments were uncalled for. I just question if that means he's truly a transphobic individual that hates trans people or just took a really low blow cheap shot. I also think it's unfair to take a statement from 2011 and say that Billy fired Nicole because she's gay.
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06-22-2022, 07:54 PM | #104 |
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don't be nieve.
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06-22-2022, 09:16 PM | #105 |
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Christ, I still feel like this is a "new" Smashing Pumpkins album. Yet it is as old now as Adore was when Zeitgeist came out.
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06-22-2022, 09:17 PM | #106 |
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Then again, this might have something to do with the fact that it was the last SP album that I ever purchased and listened to.
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06-22-2022, 10:38 PM | #107 |
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he threatened on twitter to beat the shit out of a trans woman, ruin her life, and he called her transphobic slurs.
Bill has a long history of transphobic behavior. Go read his live journal |
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06-22-2022, 10:41 PM | #108 |
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Devi doesn't even own her Pedal business anymore does she? Did she sell it to someone?
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06-23-2022, 12:23 AM | #109 |
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She did a crowd funding thing for this pedal console thing. It was gonna be like an Atari looking thing and you could plug in different cartridges for different guitar pedal sounds. Tbh a cool idea. Then I believe she took the money, like 30k, and then never delivered the product. Somehow didn’t end up in jail over it either.
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06-23-2022, 12:40 AM | #110 |
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06-23-2022, 12:43 AM | #111 | |
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Here's him being casually transphobic in 2019: |
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06-23-2022, 12:45 AM | #112 |
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06-23-2022, 02:50 AM | #113 |
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06-23-2022, 07:34 AM | #114 |
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Yeah, good album.
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06-23-2022, 11:39 AM | #115 | |
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On top of all of that, Billy was coming off an album that was a major letdown (Zeitgeist), a 20th Anniversary Tour that alienated him from the press and causal fans, Jimmy leaving (the sole reason many people were willing to continue pretending this was Smashing Pumpkins), and a series of releases that made most people think he'd lost his fucking mind (TbK). Honestly, it's a compliment to him that the press accepted the album and praised it as much as they did, but I guess that was not enough for Billy's delusions of grandeur that it was immediately going to shoot him back to the top. Again, I'm not interested enough to look it up, but I'd imagine this album sold about as well as any of the albums his peers released around the same time... Also, in regards to DeviEver, that's Corgan in a nutshell. If he'd just not commented on the situation, or presented a reasonable response, he would have appeared the better person. Instead, he went into bully-mode. People here are right that pronouns were not as big a point of conversation then as they are now, but it was still obvious he made the "he/she/it" statement to be hateful. It's a testament to how little people cared about Billy Corgan in 2011 that the outburst did not receive attention. |
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06-23-2022, 11:45 AM | #116 | |
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06-23-2022, 11:59 AM | #117 |
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so we agree that billy is trash and inevitably any minute now he's gonna get cancelled.
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06-23-2022, 12:03 PM | #118 | |
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Either way that makes him a POS. Maybe if he ever apologised I'd consider that he's not actually transphobic. |
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06-23-2022, 12:09 PM | #119 |
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06-23-2022, 12:33 PM | #120 |
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http://blastecho.com/nicole-fiorenti...hing-pumpkins/
But I'm sure you know more about it than she does. Or Billy Corgan. Or anyone associated with the band at that time. |
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